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   -=> Joseph Pereira wrote to All <=-   
      
    JP> Trump wants to use the tariffs to force manufacturers to start making   
    JP> products in the US again.   
      
    JP> That's a pretty hopeless proposition.   
      
    I don't see altruism in tarriffs. It's about power. Look at the soybean   
    debacle - we put tarriffs on China, they stop buying soybeans from us.   
    Farmers complain, and Trump floats providing relief, ostensibly from   
    the tarriffs he's collecting from Americans to solve a problem he   
    created. They'll probably thank Trump for saving their businesses and   
    buy TRUMP 2028 hats from the Trump store.   
      
    In the meantime, Argentina is becoming China's trading partner in soy   
    beans, and we're sending Argentina $20 Billion to prop up their economy?   
      
    Someone, make this make sense.   
      
      
      
    JP> There are several reasons for this.   
      
    JP> The main reason it won't work is that China isn't 30% or 60% cheaper.   
    JP> If US manufacturers want to compete with China in the US, they'll have   
    JP> to impose a 500% to 600% tariff.   
      
    JP> US industrial products are literally 6 times more expensive if you want   
    JP> to make them in the US.   
      
    JP> This is due to the scale of production, which the US can't match. After   
    JP> all, China produces for the world. The US wants to produce for the US.   
      
    JP> Moreover, Americans want a wage that allows them to live in the US.   
    JP> With very expensive American products, US wages will also have to rise.   
      
    JP> And that's not even mentioning the fact that the US has to rebuild its   
    JP> production from scratch. After all, it's practically gone. Are American   
    JP> companies going to invest in something they know they can never compete   
    JP> with globally? Suppose a future administration decides it's not worth   
    JP> it, then you'll have invested billions for nothing. Who seriously wants   
    JP> to take that risk?   
      
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