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   Message 37,420 of 39,875   
   Aaron Thomas to Ron L.   
   Big Tech Political Coveru   
   09 Aug 25 21:46:18   
   
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    RL>  AT> With the latest releases of Chrome and Edge browsers for Linux/Debian   
    RL>  AT> there's a very noticeable issue with accelerated graphics. On certain   
    RL>  AT> websites, even gmail.com, there are weird shapes covering elements.   
    RL>    
    RL> I've heard of this, but never seen it first hand.  Chrome and Edge are   
    RL> spyware and won't be on my Linux systems.  We use Brave - and now we get   
    RL> political.   
      
   Some things I've figured out since I made that post are: 1) The accelerated   
   graphics feature in browsers uses the client machine's GPU to reduce strain   
   on the client machine's CPU, which should improve performance, but at what   
   cost? 2) My GPU is 17 years old and outdated, and the new Chromium engine   
   (used by Chrome and Edge) doesn't cater to such old GPUs.   
      
   But they literally broke web browsing for people who use old computers and I   
   don't believe that it's justified; web browsing has been lighting-fast for at   
   the past 20 years or more, so who needs graphics acceleration? This is an   
   attempt to get people to buy new computers at a time when Trump's tariffs   
   might actually have a small impact on the price, with the logic that "the   
   dummies will blame Trump before they blame Chrome updates."   
      
    RL> The company (Red Hat?) who controlled X11 effectively choked it by not   
    RL> allowing people to make bug fixes and enhancements for it.  Finally it   
    RL> came to a head and they publically admitted they wanted to kill X11 in   
    RL> favor of Wayland.   
      
   I wasn't aware of this because I only began using Linux about 15 years ago.   
   And I was going to ask you "What difference does it make when all this   
   software is free?" But the answer to that is self-explanatory; it's not the   
   money, it's the power.   
      
    RL> And the Wokies are, without exception, completely incompetent so   
    RL> something like Wayland will never be complete or feature match X11 -   
    RL> especially now that someone forked X11 into XLibre, applied all those   
    RL> bug fixes and enhancements.   
      
   Right. We're under their control (at times) even though they aren't adept at   
   controlling things.   
      
    RL> And what's political about the Brave browser?  It seems that many Wokies   
    RL> don't like the politics of the guy who writes it.  So they bad mouth it   
    RL> all the time.   
      
   I'll give it a try sometime but I'm primarily a (hobbyist) web developer so I   
   want to see things through the eyes of the average web user which I believe is   
   via Chrome primarily and Edge alternatively.   
      
   Firefox doesn't deploy graphics acceleration by default, which is great, but   
   it does me little good because I don't think many people actually use Firefox.   
      
   I'm content in assuming that most people (70% according to "the experts") use   
   mobile devices for web browsing, and graphics acceleration is not an issue for   
   most mobile users unless they are part of the minority that uses ancient   
   android devices.   
      
   I try to adapt my web apps to work well on all devices but the browser   
   developers can care less about that and they're even throwing curveballs to it.   
      
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