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   Message 2,236 of 3,070   
   Wilfred van Velzen to Jay Harris   
   Re: sending a message to someone   
   01 Feb 21 21:48:13   
   
   TID: FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815   
   RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes   
   TZUTC: 0100   
   CHRS: UTF-8 2   
   PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20161221   
   MSGID: 2:280/464 60186ae0   
   REPLY: 1:229/664 c06d3f87   
   Hi Jay,   
      
   On 2021-02-01 15:34:24, you wrote to me:   
      
    Wv>>  JH> Was the ENC flag intended for some other purpose?   
      
    Wv>> The ENC flag isn't really a technical flag. It's more a statement the   
    Wv>> node will forward encrypted mail.   
      
    Wv>> In the distant past when this first became an issue, people were   
    Wv>> afraid they would be held responsible for the content of the netmail   
    Wv>> they forwarded.   
      
    JH> Interesting.  So it was more of a liability thing.   
      
   Yes, sort of. But this was decades ago, when pgp was first introduced. So   
   nobody really knew what laws applied, and the differences between countries.   
   So some people choose the safe option.   
      
    JH> I'm not sure about Europe, but the US has had a "Safe Harbour" law in   
    JH> place for quite some time & thanks to the USMCA (the new "NAFTA") both   
    JH> Canada & Mexico have those same protections (since July 2020).   
      
   I don't know the exact details but in general common carrier (telecom)   
   companies can't be prosecuted for the data they transport. But I don't know it   
   this applies to fidonet nodes.   
      
   Anyway I don't know of any legal problems in the history of fidonet for such   
   things.   
      
    JH> Do we know of anyone still actively bouncing/droping encrypted netmail   
    JH> today?   
      
   I don't. Maybe ask in an area like for instance FN_SYSOP, where you have a   
   bigger audiance for such matters.   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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