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|    August Abolins to Alan Ianson    |
|    beyond March 19 2038    |
|    11 Feb 20 19:50:21    |
      MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5e42e95c       REPLY: 1:153/757 5e42acef       PID: JamNNTPd/OS2 1.3 20191227       TID: GE/2 1.2       CHRS: UTF-8 2       TZUTC: 0200       On 11/02/2020 8:16 a.m., Alan Ianson : August Abolins wrote:              According to the TZUTC, you wrote that just after 5am! You certainly       start your day very early. I have a couple of house-broken cats that       wake me up between 3a and 5a to be let out, each at their own time! But       I promptly settle back to sleep.                      AI>When I first joined Fidonet in 1995 those diff's were essential.        AI>The compressed nodelists were 1.5MB and I really didn't want to        AI>transfer that on the 2400 baud modem I had at the time..              I used a 2400 baud that came with my computer only briefly. But, by the       time I joined Fidonet with my own bbs I had a 14.4 kbit/s internal       modem. The increase in speed seemed amazing at the time.              I really enjoyed utilizing simultaneous upload/download. Was that with       Ymodem/G...? I don't quite remember. It was cool to "chat" with       another sysop during the upload/download session too.              1.5MB seems rather large for a text-based nodelist. Were you relying on       one of the non-zip archives? But the math seems right:              Today, approx 1000 nodes = 50K       Peak, approx 40000 nodes = 2000K or 2meg                      AI>Can OXP not skip processing the diff and just compile a new        AI>nodelist?              Processing the diff is actually preferred.              As I wrote in my original message, OXP does not seem to be designed to       offer automatic full nodelist detection upon arrival. But that's ok.       The diff processing works and is pretty magical - now that I've learned       that there are different versions of the "same" nodelist and nodediffs       depending on the Zone you pull them from. I had no idea.                      AA>>Y2K-broken programs have probably left the FTN scene gracefully.               AI>I hope so.. but we do have pktdate should the need arise..              That reminds me, I recently discovered a date problem when I used       Tommi's BBS (ie logged in manually) to send a netmail few weeks ago. His       Concord BBS software produced a future date of 2056. LOL               Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2056 21:45:16 GMT        Message-ID: <5473$netmail@JamNNTPd>        References: <5470$netmail@JamNNTPd>        X-JAM-From: August Abolins <2:221/360>        X-JAM-To: Martin Foster <2:310/31.3>        X-JAM-MSGID: 2:221/360 1ced0c7d        X-JAM-REPLYID: 2:310/31.3 f99352d3        X-JAM-PID: Concord 0.01 Beta-30d OS/2 ser#cc38c58d                     I should drop by and see if he had a chance to hack netmails with pktdate.                      AA>>..will many 32-bit        AA>>programs that rely on dates (like this OXP) expire on March 19        AA>>2038 03:14:07 UTC?               AI>I don't think they'll expire but the dates they display might be        AI>wonky.              It's really fun to hack a fix and witness the magic. But it's more fun       when things run right the first time.                      AI>I think the OpenXP developers are still developing, or at        AI>least maintaining OXP so I think OXP users will be OK. I'm not so        AI>sure about some other software.              I never really thought that I would warm up to OXP, it being a dos/texty       interface requiring mostly keyboard action. But its message search       capabilities are very good, among other things.                      AI>There were 2020 problems in Mystic that were quickly fixed. These        AI>sorts of niggles can show up unexpectedly.              Lots of fun to be had!                     --        Quoted with Reformator/Quoter. Info = https://tinyurl.com/sxnhuxc              --- TB68.4.1/Win7 (the abbr. string!)        * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/10 90/1 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 227/114 229/426       SEEN-BY: 229/1014 240/5832 249/206 317 400 280/464 5003 288/100 292/854       SEEN-BY: 310/31 317/3 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 712/848 770/1       SEEN-BY: 2452/250       PATH: 221/360 1 280/464 229/426           |
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