On Thu, 04 Dec 2014, John Kelly wrote to Moderator:   
      
   -> fidonet is a real names network so real names are required in most   
   -> echomail areas...   
      
    JK> Sounds like a moderator can waive that "requirement"   
      
   possibly...   
      
   -> you should have posted this to my attention in netmail; Rule 4 ;)   
      
    JK> I'm not a sysop, only a user. AFAIK, I ain't got no netmail.    
      
   you should have netmail access at the system you are posting from...   
      
   -> main thing is for folks knowing who they are conversing with and   
   -> not having "nym hopping" as is seen in some areas.   
      
   -> right now, at this time, i'll allow this topic to be open for some   
   -> discussion but it should not detract from the overall purpose of the   
   -> echo.   
      
    JK> I don't think this echo has any real purpose except for some   
    JK> occasional chit chat between a few old die-hards (myself included).   
      
   at this time, this is true... however, if someone were to pick up development   
   and carry the software on further than it has ever been, that would be   
   something else ;)   
      
    JK> How important, or relevant, can that really be?   
      
   i dunno... i echolisted the area to ensure that it is not removed from   
   distribution by those systems that require echolisting for cartage... this was   
   done to keep it available for those desiring to have a place to discuss it :)   
      
    JK> OTOH, I see posts in alt.bbs.pcboard, dicussing the PCBoard source   
    JK> code, posted a person or persons, who, judging by their "name,"   
    JK> wish to remain anonymous. If they can't do that here, seems a loss   
    JK> to me.   
      
   maybe, maybe not... we don't have the problems here in fidonet that are seen   
   in other social environments that allow anonymous posters... also, it is   
   anonymous posters that are the problem... well known posters that have used   
   the same "nym" for a decade or more are a slightly different matter... folks   
   who do know them likely do know some personal facts about them... all we're   
   looking at is their name... some people rather talk to someone and call them   
   by their real name... it just feels closer and more friendly...   
      
    JK> The source code is more relevant than idle chit chat. I'm not   
    JK> opposed to idle talk, but it's surely not as relevant as the source   
    JK> code. If this echo is to have any real purpose at all, contributors   
    JK> to the source code should be welcome, while remaining anonymous.   
      
   i don't have any problem as long as they are known... in other words, if   
   someone pops in out of the blue using some "nym" that no one has ever heard of   
   or seen before, how can they be trusted? on the other hand, if a well known   
   name (say 15+ years known) comes in and posts, the trust is inherently based   
   on how long they have been actively known by that "nym"...   
      
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