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   //Hello mark,//   
      
   on *19.02.22* at *10:57:52* You wrote in Area *PASCAL*   
   to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"Delphi"*.   
      
    TS>> While I know it's still there and actually IMHO still quite interesting,   
    TS>> even mentioning Delphi in any industry or academia context is at least   
    TS>> giving you raised eyebrows.   
      
    ml> imagine the looks that mentioning (actively using) freepascal will get   
    ml> you ;)   
      
   For sure. Any idea in what state that one actually is?    
      
    ml> TBH, i only had delphi one time and it was a free version for   
    ml> something... i used it once and never again... i don't recall why...   
    ml> probably because i didn't understand GUI programming at that time... in   
    ml> any case, though, most of my coding was being done in TP/BP 6 and 7 for   
    ml> command line tools and a few BBS door things... then i found freepascal   
    ml> later on after my coding time had lessened... in today's world, i use   
    ml> freepascal and the lazarus editor... yes, even for text only command line   
    ml> apps... i even have one that thinks it is an "application" (using   
    ml> TApplication IIRC)... i'd have to go look at the code which i've not   
    ml> looked at in 5+ years ;)   
      
   I have done a lot of development and worked alot with most common programming   
   languages (Assembler, C, C++, C#, Java, ECMAScript ...) on most common   
   plattforms (C64, Amiga, DOS, OS/2, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android, ...). Still,   
   I have to say that when it comes to desktop or database application   
   develpment, the productivity as well as the quality of the result from a   
   user's perspective I see with Delphi is unrivaled. This holds even today, when   
   developing mobile applications. However, I have rarely actually used Delphi   
   (aside from reviving WP using Delphi 2007) simply because using Delphi today   
   feels like betting on the wrong horse. However, it did so already 20 years ago   
   and proved a good idea for many people I know so actually my confidence in   
   Delphi is rising again today.       
      
   For clarification I have to add, that in the end there is not much difference   
   in using C++, C#, Java or Delphi for an experienced programmer. However, the   
   productivity comes often largely from the tools and frameworks at hand (what   
   makes Python so attractive for certain applications). At this point, Delphi   
   still for me provides the most comprehensive and shortest path to high quality   
   graphical user interfaces that can be easiliy maintained and extended. Same   
   hold for relational database support and many other field, where a still   
   suprisingly rich portfolio of COTS exists that simplify the development of   
   applications based on common standards a lot. Also, there are little other   
   platforms that easiliy enable simple multi-platform develoment in reality.   
      
   Regards,   
   Tim   
      
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