JJ> I enjoyed Pascal after I moved on from Basic many   
        > years ago.  I look at it now and wonder why I just   
        > didn't jump into C or C++.  The more I understood   
        > Pascal, the more I learned about C++. So I guess it's   
        > practically to experiment the space shuttle first   
        > before flying to the moon.   
      
    AB>     I prefer Pascal to C but I've been trying to force   
    AB> myself to learn C because it's easier to find documentation and   
    AB> supported compilers for C.  Pascal feels cleaner though, for   
    AB> application programming at least.   
      
   you really should take a look at free pascal, then... it is multi-platform and   
   multi-OS... granted, not everything is the same across the multi parts but   
   most of it is... it is also still in development as is the separate Lazarus   
   RAD environment... i participate in the mailing lists for both and only rarely   
   ever go to the forums for them... plus there's a newsgroup or two where they   
   are also discussed and supported...   
      
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