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   On 18/10/2012 18:19, RD Sandman wrote:   
   > Uergil  wrote in news:Uergil-AAC81F.23455217102012   
      
   >> But as atheism is not a claim about whether any gods actually  exist,   
   > it   
   >> has no need of proof.   
   >   
   > Wrong.  You define atheism above but then in the next statement confuse   
   > them with agnostics.   
   >   
   > Atheists state that there are no gods....   
      
   No, atheists say "I don't believe in god(s)"   
      
   Atheism has nothing to do with gnosticism   
      
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