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   fasgnadh to All   
   Re: Why is Christianity growing and athe   
   15 Oct 12 16:33:52   
   
   talk.politics.guns,alt.religion.christian,comp.os.os2.advocacy,a   
   t.agnosticism,talk.atheism   
   <2bgl78dqn3qr5so823io8gpeuoaeujpn0p@4ax.com>   
   Subject: Re: Why is Christianity growing and atheism dying worldwide? It's   
    the ignorance, bigotry and hate -- News article   
      
   On 15/10/2012 12:45 AM, deep wrote:   
   > On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:55:16 GMT, reports@scientology.org (Fred^4)   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-besen/gay-bashing-by-chur   
   hes-is-why-a-new-pew-poll-shows-america-losing-its-religion_b_1951650..html   
   >>   
   >>     A new poll by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life reveals   
   >>     that a record number of Americans (19.3 percent) have abandoned   
   >>     faith and now consider themselves unaffiliated with any particular   
   >>     religion.   
   >>   
   >> The whole world is rejecting Republicanism.   
      
      
   You appear to be very confused.   
      
   You confuse Christianity with the Republican Party and   
   the USA with the world.   
      
   In the sime that atheist numbers in the USA grew from a   
   tiny 902,000 (0.4%) to a pathetic 1,621,000 (0.7%) the   
   number of Christians in China grew by 300,000,000!     8^o   
      
   Clearly, in Global terms, it is atheism which has declined   
   from insignificance to irrelevance.   
      
   When you look only at the USA, which is declining in relative global    
   importance in most fields, you get a distored view.   
      
   It seems to make a large number of you angry and irrational.   
      
   Globally the number of believers continues to grow, which is quite   
   different from the participation in organised religion, which is    
   declining because Priests and Imams no longer represent the true teachings.   
      
   Globally, it is atheism which has declined into irrelevance,   
   after the catastrophic failure of the Atheist states of the 20th   
   Century, the Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression (USSR), Mao's   
   Great Leap Backwards and Cultural Devolution and Pol Pot's Cambodia,   
   which terrorised tortured and killed over 80,000,000 people.   
      
   Since then only one atheist state remains, North Korea.   
      
      
       "With the gradual liberalisation that developed with   
        Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no   
        longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was   
        amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom   
        of religion."   
      
             http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html   
      
      
      "At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang   
       Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged   
       the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."   
      
      "For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime   
       to a large extent,"   
      
   http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm   
      
      
      
        "religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the   
         past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"   
      
          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm   
      
      
     "Religious believers thrice the estimate   
      By Wu Jiao (China Daily)   
      
     "A survey has found that the number of religious believers   
     is three times bigger than the official estimate.   
      
     The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong   
     Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal   
     University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent   
     of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."   
      
     http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm   
      
        Incredible!  in just a few short years the new converts from   
        atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase   
        in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD!   B^D   
      
   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA   
      
      
      
      
   # Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!   
   # -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA!  -a pitiful   
   # fraction of the minority of non-believers!  B^D   
   #   
   # From: fasgnadh    
   # Newsgroups:   
   # alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,   
   # alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc   
   # Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.16542@news-server.bigpond.net.au>   
   # Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT   
   #   
   # American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:   
   #   
   # "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition   
   #   
   #                         2001                   2008   
   #   
   # Non- religious     29,481,000  (14.1%)     34,169,000  (15%)   
   #   
   # Religious         167,254,000	  (80%)     182,198,000	 (80%)   
   #   
   # Agnostics             991,000   (0.5%)      1,985,000  (0.9%)   
   #   
   # Atheists              902,000   (0.4%)      1,621,000  (0.7%)   
   #   
      
      
   > It's because science is finally replacing the last of the fairy tales   
   > and mythology.   
      
   Science is dying in the USA along with participation in organised religion.   
      
   As your media shows, fantasy, fairytales and mythology have never been   
   more popular in the USA than now, True Blood, Avatar, Walking Dead,    
   Twilight,   Sci Fi has replaced Science, and Vampires are more popular    
   than Physics   
      
   Where's your Space Program gone?   
      
   More people watch programs about Psychics and Mutants than Global Warming.   
      
   How many people, including College students, don't believe in Evolution?   
      
   Which nations are leading in the manufacture of renewable technologies,   
   solar panels, electric cars?   
      
    > We've been to space.   
      
   Pfffft!  Other nations are still going there.   
      
   Stop living in the nostalgic past, and a world of Hollywood-created    
   supernatural fantasy.   
      
    > We know there is no old man living in the clouds   
   > who merely waves his hand to make things happen.   
      
   You know that because of the work of Tycho, Kepler, Copernicus and    
   Galileo ...  ALL BELIEVERS!   
      
   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA   
      
   And so much more rational than the most well known atheists in history;    
   Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.   
      
   > Science has replaced all that just like it replaced the thought we   
   > were at the center of the universe.   
      
   That primitive thought was shared by all the atheists at the time,   
   it was the believers; Copernicus, Tycho, Kepler and Galileo wo put them    
   straight.   
      
   Historically, science has been advanced by believers, after all, they    
   have built the civilisations which have evolved into the modern,    
   progressive, free, open secular democracies which we now enjoy..   
   everyone of them built by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations..   
      
   In all of human history, atheism has not built even ONE decent    
   democracy, let alone a great and enduring civilisation.. EVERY   
   atheist state has been a totalitarian tyranny.   
      
   The reason seems to be your irrational, muddled, thinking..   
   you confuse and conflate Christianity with the Republican Party,   
   ande the USA with the world:   
      
    > It's been no wonder that the Republican Christians   
   > have always been so against education.  It shows   
   > them for what they are.   
      
   As ignorant as your posts show you to be.   
      
      
      
      
      
   --    
      
      
   When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls   
   was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda   
   Propaganda set about to "FIX" it:                              B^D   
      
   # From: Mike Lovell    
   # Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question   
   # Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500   
   # Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism   
   # Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated   
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
      
   # From: Mike Lovell    
   # Subject: AA: What happens after you die   
   # Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism   
   # Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated   
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
      
   atheist parasites SIPHON your posts!   B^D   
      
   ---------   
      
      
   The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently   
   launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and   
   no atheists are interested in talking about it:   
      
      
       http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/   
      
      
      
       -  Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists   
                            The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne  19/3/2012   
      
      
       http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm   
      
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   alt.atheism FAQ:   
      
   http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/   
      
      
   http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed   
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     "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."   
         -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
      
      "We must combat religion"   
          -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
      
     “Down with religion and long live atheism;   
      the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”   
         - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
      
     "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."   
         - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)   
      
      
      
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         - Lenin   
      
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