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   RD Sandman wrote in    
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   > Mitchell Holman wrote in    
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   >> RD Sandman wrote in    
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   >>> Mitchell Holman wrote in    
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   >>>> RD Sandman wrote in   
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   >>>>> SkyEyes wrote in   
   >>>>> news:e958ac5d-5d9b-4a20-9ad2-990674881cd5   
   >> @o5g2000pbd.googlegroups.com:   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>>>    
   >>>>>> The fact remains, whatever your protestations, that Bush was handed    
   >> a   
   >>>>>> *surplus*,    
   >>>>>    
   >>>>> No, he wasn't.    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> So Bush lied.   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> "You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are    
   >>>> too high and government is charging more than it needs."   
   >>>> Bush Address to Congress, Feb 2001   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> And the US Treasury lied:   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> U.S. budget surplus shrinks    
   >>>> October 29, 2001    
   >>>>    
   >>>> NEW YORK (CNNmoney) - The U.S. government's budget surplus    
   >>>> shrank in 2001, the Treasury Department reported Monday,    
   >>>> dragged down by a sluggish economy, falling tax revenue and    
   >>>> the impact of last month's terror attacks. The Treasury    
   >>>> Department reported a budget surplus for the fiscal year,    
   >>>> which ended on Sept. 30, of $127 billion, compared with $237    
   >>>> billion a year ago.   
   >>>> money.cnn.com/2001/10/29/economy/budget/    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> And Fox News lied.    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> "The last surplus was in 2001, President Bush's first year in    
   > office."   
   >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296720,00.html   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> And the Congressional Budget Office lied.   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> "Since peaking at $290 billion in 1992, deficits have declined each    
   >>>> year, dropping to a level of $22 billion in 1997. For 1998, the    
   >>>> Nation recorded its first budget surplus ($69.2 billion) since 1969.    
   >>>> As a percent of GDP, the budget bottom line went from a deficit of    
   >>>> 4.7% in 1992 to a surplus of 0.8% in 1998."   
   >>>> http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy00/pdf/hist.pdf   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> And Newt Gingrich lied:   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> "We should take the $1 trillion in SURPLUS and spend it on a tax    
   >>>> cut," Gingrich told reporters after a House GOP leadership meeting.    
   >>>> But Gingrich also said that the $1 trillion tax cut plan he favors    
   >>>> might net only $750 billion in tax relief for technical reasons.    
   >>>> Gingrich said he favors "taking $1 trillion in surplus and spending    
   >>>> it on tax cuts which, for reflow reasons, probably gets about to    
   >>>> be $750 billion" in total tax relief."   
   >>>> http://www.ctj.org/itep/ging98an.htm   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> And John McCain lied:   
   >>>>    
   >>>> "I believe we must save Social Security, we must pay down the    
   >>>> debt, we have to make an investment in Medicare. For us to put    
   >>>> all of the surplus into tax cuts, I think is not a conservative    
   >>>> effort." John McCain, January 11, 2000   
   >>>> http://tinyurl.com/289qw6r   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> Wow.   
   >>>    
   >>> Those are "projections".   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> "For 1998, the Nation recorded its first budget    
   >> surplus ($69.2 billion) since 1969."   
   >>    
   >> The CBO didn't say "projection", they said   
   >> RECORDED SURPLUS.   
   >    
   > In 1998, that was true but then we weren't discussing 1998. We were    
   > discussing the "surpluses" Clinton passed on to Bush. From when Bush    
   > took office, those were projections from the Clinton budgets. Are you    
   > really that stupid you don't know how budgets and budget projections    
   > work?   
   >    
   >    
   > Why is that so hard to grasp?   
      
   Seriously? You have to ask?   
      
   Debt, deficit, projections - IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!   
       
   > Perhaps, you should try answering your own question.   
   >    
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