From: tholen@antispam.ham   
      
   I wrote:   
      
   > Marty wrote:   
      
   >> Doug Bissett wrote:   
      
   >>>> I've been successfully using Firefox for OS/2 to perform Internet   
   >>>> banking for some time.  Beginning in October, after my bank made   
   >>>> some changes to their Internet banking software, I could no longer   
   >>>> log in.  In attempting to trouble-shoot this problem, a representative   
   >>>> of the bank first told me that I needed to have Flash installed to   
   >>>> see the "Authentication image".  I certainly didn't need Flash to do   
   >>>> that prior to October.  Then I was told that Flash is needed for   
   >>>> cookies, which strikes me as grasping at straws to find an explanation   
   >>>> for why it no longer works.  I can image that Flash has the ability   
   >>>> to set cookies, but why would an Internet banking software provider   
   >>>> use Flash to set cookies simply to log in?   
      
   >>> A few years ago, there was something similar happening. The "fix" was   
   >>> to determine what web address followed the "bad" logon screen, and go   
   >>> directly to that one, rather than having to go through the "bad"   
   >>> stuff. Don't know if that would work in this case, but it may be worth   
   >>> trying.   
      
   >> I agree.  If you can use another Flash-enabled machine to find out where    
   >> this Flash page links, you should probably be ok.  You can use a tool    
   >> like FlashGot on the Flash-enabled system to get this information I think.   
      
   > I tried logging in using a laptop with eCS 2.0 installed.  It has Firefox   
   > 3.6.8 installed as well as the old Flash 5.  I was able to login.  I then   
   > disabled the Flash plugin.  The video that I had playing from one of the   
   > sample Flash web pages stopped instantly, as expected.  I then went back   
   > to the bank, and the top center of the screen had a message about Flash   
   > being disabled.  But I was still able to login.  So unless the mere   
   > presence of Flash-related files is enough to allow a login, I'm forced   
   > to conclude that the bank representative is wrong about Flash being needed.   
   > I certainly didn't need it prior to October.   
   >   
   > The latest message from the bank says they don't support beta versions of   
   > web browsers.  I've been using the Firefox b8pre (both Oct 30 and Dec 04),   
   > which work just fine with other banks.   
      
   I just tried the old Firefox 2.0, and I was able to login.  So, the bank is   
   wrong about Flash being needed, but the evidence suggests that they're right   
   about not supporting a beta.  So now the question becomes, what is in the   
   4.0b8pre that is inhibiting login?   
      
      
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