From: tholen@antispam.ham   
      
   Marty writes:   
      
   > Doug Bissett wrote:   
      
   >>> I've been successfully using Firefox for OS/2 to perform Internet   
   >>> banking for some time. Beginning in October, after my bank made   
   >>> some changes to their Internet banking software, I could no longer   
   >>> log in. In attempting to trouble-shoot this problem, a representative   
   >>> of the bank first told me that I needed to have Flash installed to   
   >>> see the "Authentication image". I certainly didn't need Flash to do   
   >>> that prior to October. Then I was told that Flash is needed for   
   >>> cookies, which strikes me as grasping at straws to find an explanation   
   >>> for why it no longer works. I can image that Flash has the ability   
   >>> to set cookies, but why would an Internet banking software provider   
   >>> use Flash to set cookies simply to log in?   
      
   >> A few years ago, there was something similar happening. The "fix" was   
   >> to determine what web address followed the "bad" logon screen, and go   
   >> directly to that one, rather than having to go through the "bad"   
   >> stuff. Don't know if that would work in this case, but it may be worth   
   >> trying.   
      
   > I agree. If you can use another Flash-enabled machine to find out where    
   > this Flash page links, you should probably be ok. You can use a tool    
   > like FlashGot on the Flash-enabled system to get this information I think.   
      
   I tried logging in using a laptop with eCS 2.0 installed. It has Firefox   
   3.6.8 installed as well as the old Flash 5. I was able to login. I then   
   disabled the Flash plugin. The video that I had playing from one of the   
   sample Flash web pages stopped instantly, as expected. I then went back   
   to the bank, and the top center of the screen had a message about Flash   
   being disabled. But I was still able to login. So unless the mere   
   presence of Flash-related files is enough to allow a login, I'm forced   
   to conclude that the bank representative is wrong about Flash being needed.   
   I certainly didn't need it prior to October.   
      
   The latest message from the bank says they don't support beta versions of   
   web browsers. I've been using the Firefox b8pre (both Oct 30 and Dec 04),   
   which work just fine with other banks.   
      
      
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