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|    Wilfred van Velzen to Fabio Bizzi    |
|    Re: Node originating a message    |
|    25 Sep 19 18:47:08    |
      TID: FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815       RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes       TZUTC: 0200       CHRS: UTF-8 2       PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20161221       MSGID: 2:280/464 5d8b9a0d       REPLY: 2:335/364.1 5d8b7e30       Hi Fabio,              On 2019-09-25 16:41:18, you wrote to me:               WV>> That depends where you intercept the messages to get the information.        WV>> Is it from the .pkt file or is it already in a message base?               FB> In the between. :)        FB> In HPT you can intercept the single message unpacked from the bundle       before        FB> the delivery to the message base, there you are in GOD MODE [(c) DOOM]              Then you have to figure out how the header is represented in that intercepted       message from HPT.               FB> and you can do all that you want with perl scripts.              'perl'!? You're a masochist! ;)               WV>> If everything can be forged, your software can't know if some part or        WV>> all of the message is forged, so it doesn't have to consider that.        WV>> And it's not a consideration to not use the header, instead of other        WV>> parts of the message. ;)               FB> You're right, but there should be someting that is injected by the main        FB> node to know where the message is originated and not forgeable by a user        FB> editor (BBS/Point/JAMNNTPD and so on), do you know about something like        FB> this?              Well in an echomail message you have 4 possible sources:               Header        MSGID kludge        Origin line        PATH line              If you don't trust any, you could compare the ones that are present. And if       there are inconsistencies report/log/move-to-bad or do whatever you seem       appropriate with it. I don't think it's worth it...               FB> Are you sure that the first node of the path can be rewritten?              It's generated on the originating system, so someone that really wants to       fiddle with it, could.              The problem with the PATH line is the lack of zone and point fields. And they       could have been stripped somewhere along the path. So the first system in the       first PATH line doesn't have to be the originating system.              Btw: The header (in a packed message) has the same limitation as the PATH, it       doesn't contain the Zone and Point number of the originating system.              Bye, Wilfred.              --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815        * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/2 18/200 103/705 154/10 203/0 221/0 227/114 229/354       SEEN-BY: 229/426 1014 240/5832 249/206 317 280/464 5003 292/854 310/31       SEEN-BY: 317/3 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/120 633/280 712/848 770/1       PATH: 280/464 229/426           |
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