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     Re: Re: mutil issues   
     By: Aaron Thomas to Al on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:08 pm   
      
    AT> I asked Carol but she said no password was needed.   
      
   OK, scratch the packet passwords..   
      
    AT> Also, packets seem to be downloading from her, but just not importing into   
    AT> my BBS for some reason. I can see a whole bunch of fido-related files in   
    AT> my msgs folder, but I'm not sure if they were auto created when I added   
    AT> the message bases, or if those files exist because they were downloaded   
    AT> from the hub.   
      
   Mystic can auto create areas.. maybe that is what is happening. You can set   
   that up in the mutil.ini you use to toss incoming mail.   
      
   If that is happening those areas should show on your BBS.   
      
    AT> I think she has me set up properly on her end. She's been in communication   
    AT> with me, but I don't know what else to ask of her.   
      
   Yep, sounds like you are well on your way.   
      
    AT> She uses Argus and Synchronet. Is it uncommon for a Mystic sysop to   
    AT> receive packets from an Argus/Synchronet system?   
      
   One of my links uses Argus (Radius in his case) and it works well.   
   Argus/Taurus/Radius is not used much these days but may still be used at some   
   nodes.   
      
    AT> Another thing that concerns me is: When I added the Fido message bases to   
    AT> Mystic, I imported them with a FIDONET.NA file. When I imported, I   
    AT> selected 0 for JAM. Maybe I should have selected 1 for Squish? Not sure   
    AT> about that.    
      
   Squish isn't supported anymore so you'll have to use Jam.   
      
    AT> I also have CRAM-MD5: Yes   
    AT> I tried setting it to "No" prior to polling, and "Forced" prior to   
    AT> polling, but with no luck.   
      
   I see in my logs that I get a secure CRAM-MD5 session with my link using   
   Radius. Not all mailers support CRAM-MD5, BBBS does not. I'm not sure if Argus   
   supports CRAM-MD5 or not. You should ask Carol if her mailer supports   
   CRAM-MD5. It is best to use it when it is available.   
      
   I would set CRAM-MD5 to yes, the mailer will use it if available and fall back   
   if not. If you set it to forced the session will fail if CRAM-MD5 is not   
   supported on the remote node.   
      
    AT> I also tried changing Export Type to the different options, then polling,   
    AT> but none helped so I left it as "CRASH" because that's how I have Scinet &   
    AT> Metronet (and with those 2 networks I have no problems.)   
      
      
   Yes, that should work for fido as well.   
      
    AT> Thanks. For now I've been just testing in Asian Links because Carol   
    AT> watches that echo, and she will be interested to know if I ever get this   
    AT> working. I've sent about 5 test messages in that echo already (from my   
    AT> BBS) but of course none have shown up yet.   
      
   Watch the area tags, they need to match. The area tag is ASIAN_LINK, not   
   ASIAN_LINKS. A message for the area ASIAN_LINKS will not go anywhere.   
      
    AT> Carol mentioned to me "You might want to grab more echos because you only   
    AT> have 1 set up right now."   
      
    AT> Is that something that gets fixed with Areafix? I never used areafix   
    AT> before, because Scinet and Metronet (Netsurge & Exodus) seemed to have   
    AT> that preconfigured for me, so I was already signed up for all the echos.   
      
   Yes, you can connect/disconnect/rescan any areas at any time with Areafix.   
      
   Send a netmail message To: Areafix with your password on the subject line and   
   your commands in the body of the message. To get the areafix help message send   
   a netmail to Areafix at your links address, put your password on the subject   
   line and put %help in the message body.   
      
   Areafix will send you the help message in a netmail message. That netmail may   
   be addressed to Sysop, so be sure you have a forward line in the mutil.ini you   
   use to toss mail to address mail to sysop to you..   
      
   forward = Sysop;Aaron Thomas   
      
    AT> With Fidonet, do I need to sign up for the echos proactively? I think   
    AT> that's was Carol meant - but how would I do that? I don't understand the   
    AT> Mystic instructions via the Mystic Configuration. It says "Send a message   
    AT> with Areafix in the To: field."   
      
   Yes, send a netmail to Areafix at 1:275/100 (or your links address) and put   
   the commands you want in the message. No one will see your messages or   
   replies. Get the help message to see what commands Areafix at your link   
   supports. Try something like this..   
      
   ============================================================================   
   From: Aaron Thomas 1:275/99   
   To: Areafix 1:275/100   
   Subject: secret   
   ============================================================================   
   +FIDOTEST   
   +MYSTIC   
   %help   
   %list   
   %query   
   %unlinked   
   %rescan    
      
   Be sure you don't send a message to areafix in an echomail area. Send a   
   netmail.   
      
    AT> What kind of message does that mean? A netmail message addressed to Carol?   
    AT> (That's just a guess.) Or does it mean post a message in the echo that I   
    AT> want to add?   
      
   Send a netmail message to Areafix. Areafix is a robot that tossers use to   
   connect, disconnect and rescan areas for linked nodes. You can also get a list   
   of areas, a list of linked or unlinked areas. These are private message   
   between yourself and Areafix (a robot). Only you will see these messages and   
   replies.   
      
   One line in the body of a message to areafix will connect you to an area.   
      
   +fidotest   
      
   will connect you to the FIDOTEST area. I believe synchronets areafix supports   
   %+All so send that to Areafix to connect every available area, do that on a   
   line by itself..   
      
    AT> I want to be subscribed to all echos. I'm not sure if my inability to   
    AT> import/export messages in ASIAN_LINKS is due to me not being subscribed?   
      
   If 1:275/100's areafix supports "%+ALL" that command on a line of it's own in   
   a message to Areafix will connect you to all areas. Don't forget the password   
   on the subject line.   
      
    AT> Sorry Al! What a pain in the butt this stuff is. My next move will be to   
    AT> check with other sysops in my network to see if any of them are running   
    AT> Mystic, and maybe they can help me communicate better with Carol's hub.   
      
   No worries. Areafix can act differently between versions. Check your Areafix   
   help message and if %+ALL is supported, I think that'll do what you want.   
      
    Ttyl :-),   
            Al   
      
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