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   Message 942 of 1,361   
   August Abolins to Doug Cooper   
   /american assassin (2017) /the american   
   15 Jun 20 10:37:00   
   
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   Hello Doug!   
      
   ** On Sunday 14.06.20 - 22:20, Doug Cooper wrote to August Abolins:   
      
    AA>> Not a bad attempt to package the novel as a film in about 100   
    AA>> minutes. Lots of punches and bullets. But I think the book would   
    AA>> lead to a more "complete" story.   
      
    DC> I'm a huge fan of Vince Flynn.  He passed away from Cancer a few years   
    DC> ago and I think Brad Thor is ghost writing his books now, thank god.   
      
   Kyle Mills has taken up the baton to continue for Vince Flynn.   
      
      
    DC> What I love about his books is that they all feature Mitch Rapp as   
    DC> the main character.  I think any good book is hard to fit into a   
    DC> movie.   
      
   For me, a book can often "complete" the story when I've seen it as a film.     
   The original book provides additional dialog/insights that a film often     
   has to skip over.   
      
      
    DC> Two great examples that just didn't stack up:  DaVinci Code, and   
    DC> Enders Game. Both books required several pages to build to climax and   
    DC> suprising endings.   
      
   Never read DaVinci Code, but saw the film. Not interested in the book.      
   However, many people love it for it's complexities and "connections" of     
   one piece of the puzzle leading to the next and fuller explanations of the     
   various historical elements.   
      
   Enders Game: never saw the film.  The book is rather complex, and I heard     
   that the film leaves out a lot of salient or pivotal elements.  Maybe that     
   one might have worked better as a multi-episode tv series.   
      
      
    DC> Vince Flynn books are great reads, yet not as complex or lengthy as   
    DC> Clancy (who I love but have trouble staying focused on his 1,000 page   
    DC> books).  I agree they could have made it two movies.  Frankly, the   
    DC> story they told was 2 books in one -- the 1st and 2nd Flynn wrote.   
    DC> The 1st barely touched the surface of Rapp, and focused more on the   
    DC> surrounding characters to prepare you for Rapp.  The second was more   
    DC> about his recruitment and first mission.   
      
   The film ended with only a few short scenes of the next book "Kill Shot"     
   about the Lybian president, as lead in for the next assignment.  But the     
   vast majority of the film *was* the plot in book 1.   
      
      
    DC> ...There have been two knock offs of terrorists taking over the white   
    DC> house, that I believe Flynn had to sue over -- one with Samuel   
    DC> Jackson I think ... If you like spy novels, I'd recommend the read,   
    DC> especially if youw want something a bit more simple yet detailed   
    DC> enough to intrigue, and full of action and great character   
    DC> development.   
      
   I didn't know about the litigation.   
      
   Can you imagine if the reverse could take place: publishers/authors sueing     
   people that take ideas out of their stories? "The Night of Camp David"     
   (1965) and "It Can't Happen Here" (1935), both depict leaders that     
   seemingly become insane, believe that media is conspiring against them,     
   become despots, etc..  Both books have elements of what is happening in     
   the US right now.   
      
   Anyway.. the book form is often the better choice to get into the     
   character's heads and develop a better understanding of subsequent     
   actions.   
      
   I thought the book Life of Pi was unlike any other story I read before.      
   The film was a respectable visual version too.. (primarily for its special     
   effects), but the book had much more "thought processes" going on.   
      
   But check out Clooney in The American, if you can.  I think you might like     
   its intelligent storyline (not based on any book that I am aware of), its     
   European setting, etc.   
      
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