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   August Abolins to Wilfred van Velzen   
   Cops hate encryption but the NSA loves i   
   06 Jun 23 08:34:00   
   
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   TZUTC: -0400   
   Hello WvV!   
      
   ** On Friday 02.06.23 - 08:44, you wrote to me:   
      
    WvV> * Originally in MOBILE   
    WvV> * Crossposted in PUBLIC_KEYS   
      
    AA>> I bet gpg is more wide-spread in usage now than then.   
      
    WvV> I don't see any evidence of that.   
      
   Well.. Thunderbird has supported PGP/GPG integration for years     
   via plugins, and now it is practically built-in and part of the     
   whole program. An implementation like that only begs to be     
   discovered and used. If the coders for TB have done this, they     
   must have had the evidence or requests for that.   
      
   Then there are all the other programs such as GPGTools     
   GPGshell, etc.. that exist and continue to be supported.   
      
   I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these     
   options to integrate more privacy in comms.   
      
      
    AA>> Collecting and analying meta data NOW seems like a make-work   
    AA>> project that wastes time and resources.   
      
    WvV> Why do you think so. The NSA (and likes) wouldn't turn of   
    WvV> their 2016 systems, if they still keep working and giving   
    WvV> them valuable data...   
      
   Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep     
   investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of     
   collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible     
   outcome.   
      
   They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular     
   suspect or small group.   
      
   But even then, the associations between suspects/groups could     
   be full of red-herrings.   
      
      
      
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