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|    August Abolins to Wilfred van Velzen    |
|    Cops hate encryption but the NSA loves i    |
|    06 Jun 23 08:34:00    |
      MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 092d7447       REPLY: 2:280/464 64799085       PID: OpenXP/5.0.57 (Win32)       CHRS: ASCII 1       TZUTC: -0400       Hello WvV!              ** On Friday 02.06.23 - 08:44, you wrote to me:               WvV> * Originally in MOBILE        WvV> * Crossposted in PUBLIC_KEYS               AA>> I bet gpg is more wide-spread in usage now than then.               WvV> I don't see any evidence of that.              Well.. Thunderbird has supported PGP/GPG integration for years        via plugins, and now it is practically built-in and part of the        whole program. An implementation like that only begs to be        discovered and used. If the coders for TB have done this, they        must have had the evidence or requests for that.              Then there are all the other programs such as GPGTools        GPGshell, etc.. that exist and continue to be supported.              I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these        options to integrate more privacy in comms.                      AA>> Collecting and analying meta data NOW seems like a make-work        AA>> project that wastes time and resources.               WvV> Why do you think so. The NSA (and likes) wouldn't turn of        WvV> their 2016 systems, if they still keep working and giving        WvV> them valuable data...              Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep        investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of        collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible        outcome.              They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular        suspect or small group.              But even then, the associations between suspects/groups could        be full of red-herrings.                            --         ../|ug              --- OpenXP 5.0.57        * Origin: (2:221/1.58)       SEEN-BY: 15/0 103/705 106/201 124/5016 153/143 149 757 7715 203/0       SEEN-BY: 218/700 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 113 307 317       SEEN-BY: 229/426 428 470 664 700 240/1120 250/8 266/512 280/464 291/111       SEEN-BY: 292/854 8125 301/1 310/31 317/3 320/219 341/66 234 396/45       SEEN-BY: 423/81 460/58 633/280 712/848 770/1 2320/105 3634/12 24       PATH: 221/1 280/464 153/757 770/1 317/3 229/426           |
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