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   Bob Worm to Mike Powell   
   I watched a movie the oth   
   09 Sep 25 19:53:17   
   
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     Re: I watched a movie the oth   
     By: Mike Powell to BOB WORM on Mon Sep 08 2025 08:43:27   
      
   Hi, Mike.   
      
    > That is interesting!  I wonder what made them settle on 8 vs. some other   
    > number (like 10).  Maybe that is the number of seconds it takes the average   
    > user to realize something is being said and hit the button?   
      
   I just sent my friend a message asking those questions. No doubt he'll send me   
   a multi-screener of a reply - he's a helpful guy and likes to give precise   
   answers.   
      
   I see he's typing... wait for it...   
      
   5 minutes now and still going :\   
      
   He says:   
      
   I think the machine with the DUMP button (I didn't prompt him on this!) was   
   seven seconds. I don't think there was a mandatory length but there is a   
   practical minimum - enough time for the thing to be said and for the person in   
   charge of the button to react. Also there are / were cost constraints cos of   
   all the (static?) memory needed. Erm. Seven stereo servings at ? 32kHz and ?12   
   or 14 bits?   
      
   So I asked what happens if you dump then someone swears again:   
      
   Depends on your procedures I suppose. Often, pressing DUMP would be followed   
   by a 7 second jingle, works with tape delay. The electronic device was   
   supposed to "seamlessly" stretch silences and gradually get that 7s back so if   
   you were relying on that you'd be stuffed.   
      
   There was no legal requirement for it to be in circuit :-)   
      
   The one time it would have been useful (Rik Mayall, just before I started) it   
   wasn't in use.   
      
   BobW: So it works pretty much how I remembered but a second less buffer   
   (maybe, he concedes his brain is a decade older than mine) and I never knew   
   about the jingle which let it rebuild the buffer immediately. oh, and if   
   you're not familiar with Rik Mayall he's a legend, look him up!   
      
   Apparently there were fancier versions of that machine (which was a 1985   
   model) which allowed a "half dump" - if you can imagine such a thing.   
      
   BobW   
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