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   George Pope to Joe Mackey   
   Responsibilty    
   15 Apr 22 11:16:08   
   
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   TZUTC: -0700   
   CHRS: LATIN-1 2   
   > CP wrote --   
   >> I apply, occasionally, for the entry level jobs, willing to accept minwage,   
   > just to have positive cash flow for my time.   
   > I was taught that when times were tough to accept any job that came along   
   > (that I was able to do of course) until something better comes along.   
      
   I fully agree -- nobody taughht mnethast; the lesson was no longer passed on   
   by my time, I think -- but it's readily deduced with a littlecommon sense   
   (THAT I  was taught by my dad--I think it's worth more than forewarnings,   
   sometimes)   
      
   > Someone once said when hiring people it was often better to hire someone   
   > who had lots of jobs over someone who had a sheepskin and has no work   
   > experience.   
   > The one who had the jobs shows determination while the other hasn't.   
      
   True -- but too many jobs makes it look like you aren't one to commit & they    
   worry their losses in training will not be returned, as they'll get trained &    
   flighty off elsewhere. (McDonalds, especially, has this problem, as McD's on    
   your CV is a guartanteed interview getter for something better)   
      
   One of our local schools (BCIT) is the same -- it's a guaranteed job when you    
   grad their programs)   
      
   > I've known people would rather live off the dole than work a job that   
   > their degree wasn't in.   
      
   Most of my neighbours are this way -- it sucks, because they'd rather party    
   every night than let those paying the taxes to keep their dole & subsidized    
   rent.  I getsome welfare, for being disabled, but I work for it, as I was    
   taught you don't get free money -- you EARN your way.   
      
   I had to get it upon leaving the hospiotal & rehab, buyt I saw it as only a    
   temporary safety net, not a permanment solution/way of life.   
      
   Now, very dsadly, jobsare going ujnfilled because peoplewould rather sit at    
   home on the Covid allowance than do real work! :( These are ADULTS!!!    
      
   Guess I gotta work harder to pay for their lazy arses, too! *sigh*   
      
   [Slavery, pre-Lincoln]   
   > It was a part of life at the time, going back centuries.   
   > While Europe didn't have slaves, per se, during the Middle Ages they did   
   > have serfs who were pretty much slaves though not in name.   
      
   Who doesnt like having others do your work & just present you with profit?   
      
   There was no real automation then; even now for some jobs, human labour is    
   necessary (picking the billion dollar berry crops here, for one)   
      
   But the second they can ditch the human overhead, most companies jump at it.    
   (especially here in BC where the Union mentality has gone fully rogue)   
      
   My dad wasforced to join a union, by law & wasn't happy about it. Legally he    
   had to refuse to work when the union ordered it; his view was he worked for   
   the guy sighing his pay, not his fellow workers, bnuit the law was plain -- if   
   he  scabbed, he could be fined $5K or more!   
      
   >> Lincoln at one time, & he was quoted as saying slavery was essential,   
   > At first Lincoln was for preserving the union, not freeing the slaves.   
   > Freeing the slaves was secondary to him and a shrewd political move.   
   > Not saying he was opposed to it.   
      
   Yup, that's been my view of it, too.  But was the south part of the Union yet?   
   Oh, yes, I guess that included the southern parts of the LA Purchase, eh?   
      
   & the Republican Party was created to then become for slavery (only because the   
   Dems were antis, is how it looks to me.)  1964 cost the Dems a lot of votes   
   for years to  come.)   
      
   > And a lot of the Founding Fathers who owned slaves were opposed to   
   > slavery but how to end was a question.  Do it gradually or all at once and   
   > flood   
      
   Jefferson wantred to free his whole set, but it was illegal to do so, & would    
   cost him too much to do so.   
      
   > the market with more workers than there were paying jobs?   
      
   There is that -- was that ever brought up explicitly in Congress or Senate    
   then?   
      
   So much of what built Americawas accomplished only by slavery -- cotton,   
   sugar  (they still use slavery for sugar cane production in the islands.)   
      
   >>I like that our mayor here has been in for 11+ ters, because he is re-elected   
   > by popular acclaim on his merits, not on pork barrel politics.   
   > No problem there.   
      
   I am happy our system defines fixed election times, so the public gets to re-   
   evaluate all, including long termers, but I don't like that there are people    
   who merely vote against the incumbent with no clue how that might affect them    
   or their neighbours.   
      
   >> Sadly, some thing the rich, including politicians, asre universally exempt   
   > from. :'(   
   > When the Congresscritters vote on something they exempt themselves, be it   
   > taxes, work rules, whatever.   
      
   True, sadly; up to "We, the People" to change that, really. (I put it in   
   quotes as it doesn't include me in this geo-political context)   
      
   >> terrorists.  Diud you notice -- no footprints near the child -- don't people   
   > automatically run to help if they see a child lying on the sand, washed up on   
   > shore?   
   > Nope, today they just pull out their phone and video it then post on   
   > social media.   
      
   We had to pass a lawmaking it ilegal to do nothing after several people    
   recorded a guy drowning in a whirlpool, right from hitting the water, yunti   
   he  was finally dragged under to his death.   
      
   I near vomited. We need a LAW for this?!   
      
   I couldn't do squat physically, to help him, nit I could use my eyes & common    
   sense to direct those who could to put down their ******* phones & do this &    
   that. . . &, if a signal, use my own phone to call for outside help.   
      
   If I ever watch such, & only recording it, just shoot me -- I'm done as a    
   member of society.  I can say that, as it'd never happen.    
      
   My Mama didn't raise no jackass!   
      
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