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|    JOE MACKEY to MIKE POWELL    |
|    The Congress of Vienna (was: Guns)    |
|    14 Apr 22 05:41:36    |
      TID: PX/Win v3.0pr5 PX96-0466M2       MSGID: 1:135/392 12547c6c       TZUTC: -0500        Mike wrote -              > > IOW, events very seldom happen full blown out of nothing.       >        > WWII is a perfect example. There were many small, and not-so-small, events       that happened throughout the 1920's and '30's that lead up to the larger       events of 1939.               And a lot of problems go back centuries where some injustice or other       simmers below surface before some event finally makes it boil.        Like a volcano. One doesn't notice anything much until it starts       smoking and blowing. But underground things have been going on for a long       time.        I was watching a documentary on the Congress of Vienna of 1814.        That was when the winning allies against Napoleon got together and       carved up Europe. They no longer wanted one or two powerful countries who       could       cause problems, but some sort of balance of power between them all.        Tsar Alexander wanted Poland, as a buffer between Europe and Russia,       which he never got. Russia had eyes on a buffer state so there would never be       another European invasion of Russia. This gave rise to Hitler and Stalin in       1940 with Poland and later the         Partly explains Putin today, to me. The doc was made several yeas ago.        He wants a buffer between Europe and NATO and Russia, thus the problem in       Ukraine today. It wasn't like Vlad just decided one day out of the blue to       invade Ukraine.        Joe       --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 www.doccyber.org bbs.docsplace.org (1:135/392)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 123 15/0 18/0 90/1 105/81 106/201 116/116 120/340 123/0       SEEN-BY: 123/25 115 126 131 160 180 200 755 129/305 330 331 135/300       SEEN-BY: 135/366 371 379 382 383 384 385 388 390 391 392 138/146 153/757       SEEN-BY: 153/7715 154/10 218/700 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110 111       SEEN-BY: 229/206 307 317 400 424 426 428 452 664 700 240/1120 250/1       SEEN-BY: 261/38 1466 266/512 275/100 1000 282/1038 292/854 299/6 300/4       SEEN-BY: 317/3 320/219 322/757 342/11 200 396/45 460/58 633/280 640/1321       SEEN-BY: 712/848 3634/0 12 15 24 27 50 5020/1042       PATH: 135/392 300 3634/12 153/7715 229/426           |
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