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   JOE MACKEY to GEORGE POPE   
   Marines   
   12 Apr 22 05:50:54   
   
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      CP wrote --   
      
   > So it's far easier to do a few hours of swimming & treading water in the   
   Caribbean, eh,than Lake Erie, say?   
      
      And warmer too!  :)   
       
   > But in wartime, you're morer likely going to be in a below freezing Atlantic   
   than the warm clear waters of the Caribbean.. .?   
      
     Thankfully I never had to find that out.    
     It does get cold in the Caribbean in the winter.  I recall one winter   
   night it was only the upper 50s... Brr...  :)   
      
   > Better to have the skilols & not need them than to need them & not have   
   them, eh?   
      
     You bet cha.   
       
   > If you ned to remain afloat & mobile in wateer for 90 mnutes to survive an   
   incident, but you can only do 89 -- not cool -- so they prep you for 120, eh?   
      
      Thankfully I never had to find out.   
      But with everyone in a Mae West, or at least life rings, when not in a   
   lifeboat, one could survive a decent amount of time, depending on weather.    
   Even the Navy doesn't have much control over that.   
      
   > So the joint xchiefs essentially conscript the Coast Guard into active   
   service?   
      
     Yep.   
      
   > Otherwise it's more a domestic defense service, as the FBI vs CIA? (only one   
   is allowed to operate in-country & only one can operate internationally?)   
      
     The Coast Guard was mainly for coastal defence and rescue (picking up   
   survivors of ship wrecks, etc).   
     During Prohibition they were used to hunt down rum runners.   
     Today they are still coastal defence, along with air/sea rescue and   
   anti-drug chasing.     
        
   > Seems fair!  So there are Navy folk who can fly the fighter jets that are on   
   the carriers?    
      
     The fliers on carriers are Navy men with the Navy air arm.   
      
   > Did you ever serve on a carrier? Or is that a separate dispositioning after   
   intake or basic?   
      
     I visited the John F. Kennedy once.  Knew a guy onboard who gave me a   
   tour.  That thing was huge!  A floating city.   
     One is assigned after boot camp.   
     It was (still is I guess) a big day when one finds were they are going.     
   The unit one goes through boot camp with is broken up.  I was assigned the   
   News along with one other person that was in my group.  Everyone else was   
   scattered to the four winds, thoug   
     (There's another Navy boot camp in FL and one in CA.  The CA people are   
   on the west coast.   
     (Ships from the east and west trade positions at time.  That is a east   
   coast ship will go the Mediterranean and/or the Pacific and hither and yon.  A   
   ship on one coast does stay there permanently).    
     After ward it was like running into an old high school class member when   
   people ran into each other somewhere.    
      
   > How does the Air Force get their fighter jets into the foray at the front?   
      
     Uh, fly them?  :)   
     I imagine there are ships that will transport them.   
     But with bases all over the world I imagine its from a base nearest them,   
   which have been flown from another base to that one, and on back to the   
   States.   
     I never really gave it any thought.   
     In the Navy we never thought much about the Air Force, if at all.  :)   
      
   > & the odd southern Sheriff who gets re-elected based 90% on how much deviant   
   sex he can stop in his county, even amongst married folk? Some of them are   
   still enforcing anti-sodomy laws against hetero couples!)   
      
      Then there's the old line Churchill once said about the Navy  where the   
   traditions are "rum, sodomy, and the lash".      
       AFASIK the lash is gone.  :)   
      
   > I think they interpret sodomy now to be anything but basic man-superior    
   missionary. . . Still not sure how they identify these miscreants who are a   
   clear & present danger to decent society, nor how they don't get shut down by   
   the SCOTUS for ignoring the Co   
      
      The way things are today, its almost anything goes...   
      
   > Sorry; no idea how I got this switched from Navy stuff to this. . .   
      
     See my quote above.  :)   
     Joe   
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