MSGID: 1:153/757.0 bb8d215d   
   REPLY: 1:135/392 04f40b90   
   TZUTC: -0700   
   CHRS: LATIN-1 2   
   > CP wrote --   
   >> One buddy was a known murder, yetthe police obeyed orders & declared it a   
   > suicide (even though his skeleton was found remotely, & no weapon was at the   
   > scene.)   
   > In the '60s there was a motorcycle gang in the area, sort of a Hell's   
   > Angels wannabes.  Forget their name at the moment.   
      
   That's who weas in my homeyowen, owning it, basically: Satan's Angels; I've    
   heard word they might be suzerain to the Hell's Angels.  All drugs designated    
   for places west of Ontario went through Mission. I believe the HAMC has    
   everything east (the two biggest populated provinces, except Quebec booted   
   them in the 1970s)   
      
   > They were into all sorts of illegal things and generally causing trouble   
   > and mayhem.   
   > One day a guy was fishing in a nearby river and his line got snagged on   
   > something.   
   > Eventually the body was hauled ashore and turned out to be one of the   
   > ringleaders.  They had been fighting with another gang shortly before.   
   > He had been shot several times, stabbed several times, severely beaten,   
   > hands tied behind his back and weighted down with chains and weights.   
   > The sheriff declared it "the worst case of suicide I ever saw" and closed   
   > the case on him.   
      
   Seems about right.  Like the bews item of a guy found by a Texas Rangwer; the    
   guy had been shot 9 times in the face! With a bolt action shotgun (I'm sure   
   you can do the math here)   
      
   Closed as a "suicide"; I guess technically, teling the wrong Texas Rangfer to    
   FO, is suicide.   
      
   We are to believe he ratcheted a shell in, sopun the rifle around, used his    
   toes t pull thetrigger destroying his face, then re0ratcheted, to put a new    
   shell into position, turned it around, & used his toe to pull the trigger,    
   shredding a layer of cranium, & did this 7 more times!    
      
   I guess most would be like you & me: "yup, wellp. . . don't go through life    
   being a rectal orifice & you won't get stupid excuses published acquitting    
   someone of murdering you without arrest nor trial)   
      
   I expect police to do their job as trained, & not to go offo on their own as    
   judge, jury, &/or executioner, bnt they are human, dealng with the worst f    
   their fellow humans, & sometimes it'l get away from them.   
      
   If they're not hunting situations or being overtly racist, I tend to not   
   judge  too deeply (well, that, & they could likely find out where I live & I'd   
   best  hope I never have to call them, when in physical danger.) if they're   
   doing  their job overall, & saving strategic violence for those whom they   
   personally  observe being deserving of such.   
      
   Thecops here in my big suburban city are to focus on peacemaking with the    
   community.  It's working -- we don't have too much in the line of ongoing    
   problems, nor police conduct complaints.   
      
   If it ain't broke. . .   
      
   The cops I've approached & chatted with were all decent folk, just ready to   
   do  their job, as & when needed.  I've told them straight up that its not   
   improper  if the criminal they witness being severely antisocial, hits the   
   pavement a bit harder than "absolutely" needed, during a takedown.  They laugh   
   & say I don't  need to worry about that, wink-wink. *G*   
      
   Works for me.   
      
   I've known this bad element in my younger years & 99% of them just never    
   received corporal discipline growing up -- no time like the present to   
   correct  such a glaring past omission, IMO.   
      
   One year, I was voluteering for the Salvation Army as a bnellringer, outside   
   my locasl grocery. I was outside the onest of dors, ringing the bells   
   &greeting  people, when I heard a kerfuffle, looked behind mew, to see 4 guys   
   wrestling  out thedoor -- I assumed just youth goofing around with eacxh   
   other, then daw a coupletake off full speed across the parking lot, until the   
   rear two tacjked  the -- HARD! Glasses & phone skittering away on the   
   pavement, for the one who  was nearest my visible quadrant. They then perp   
   walked these two back into the  store.   
      
   Staff told me later that the owner had hired security who had takedown    
   privilege.  I was elated! I thanked & praised the top manager.   
      
   Those two will think many times before shoplifting another time!   
      
   Otherwise the shoplifters get picled up by a cvop, took on in, processed &    
   released within the hour -- what deterrent there? it's just an anecdote to   
   tell their mates the next day. . .    
      
   I believe in the owner &/or designated staff giving solid corporal discipline    
   (hurt them, yes, but don't maim them) to these thieves, even kids.  Even if   
   it  should be my own son!   
      
   --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6   
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 90/1 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131 129/305 330   
   SEEN-BY: 129/331 134/100 138/146 153/105 135 141 757 7715 218/700   
   SEEN-BY: 221/6 226/30 227/114 229/110 206 307 317 400 424 426 428   
   SEEN-BY: 229/452 664 700 240/5832 261/38 266/512 267/67 275/100 1000   
   SEEN-BY: 280/464 282/1038 292/854 301/1 317/3 320/219 322/757 342/11   
   SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/280 640/1321 712/848 3634/12   
   PATH: 153/757 7715 229/426