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   > CP wrote --   
   >> Even if you're not officially in charge, you know it'll make your job easier   
   > in the long run, eh?   
   > Anything to make my life easier I'm all for.  :)   
      
   I'm with you on thaty one!   
      
   I prefer to be efficient ("intelligently lazy")   
      
   > I once read the difference between a politician and a statesman is the   
   > politician looks to the next election, the statesman to the next generation.   
      
   There you go -- & businessowners are like this, too -- there are true    
   entrepreneurs, & then there are venture capitalists.. .   
      
   > I am currently double dipping.  I am on SS and working.   
      
   It's not "doubledipping" per se, if you're within the defined caps & other    
   parameters.   
      
   They go after us with a vewnmgrerance for collecting earned moneyt along with    
   government m,omney,. but these same gungho hunters, retire to do the same,    
   working 2 or more government fluff jobs simultaneously, with a 6-figure   
   "golden parachute" for each.   
      
   > With Social Security one can earn extra money with a cap, go over that   
   > and the feds take it.   
      
   Samewith our types of income assistance (social programs)   
      
   > I was talking with some of the cops at work the other day and said that   
   > "Big Daddy" (my nickname for the owner, whom they know, who is a cop in a   
   > nearby town) is looking out for us by paying very little so this doesn't   
   > happen.  :)   
   > I'm not sure what the cap is but I'm under it.   
      
   Oh, me, too, but I declare when asked to. . .   
      
   I don't pay taxes -- I collect them -- much better, from my point of view. . .   
      
   I pay some taxes; just not income taxes. . .   
      
   >> So you get taxed by akll 3 levels of goverbment?!   
   > And not just that.   
   > Say you buy a car or house.  You are taxed first for the car/house.  Then   
   > each year you are taxed on it again as personal property.   
      
   I thought the big dea;l in the US was they can't tax wealth (property)?!   
      
   Oh, that's only for the wealthy, not for average Joes, eh?   
      
   > Plus in WV a car is considered a luxury, and there is a luxury tax.   
      
   Bloody hell!   
      
   Even here, your first car is considered a necessity, not a luxury, unless   
   it's  worth over $80K or some thing. . .   
      
   Even people on welfare can own a home & car, but I  think total value at used    
   selling prices must be under $100K.   
      
   > Cities in WV are not allowed to have a city tax, per se.   
   > They get around this by having "business and occupation" taxes.  These   
   > are passed on to the consumer and such things as a gas or electric bill will   
   > list this, that and the other tax (fed/state) and list the B&O tax as well.   
      
   They have as many loopholes as they need to do as they please. .    
      
   Them & their wealthy buddies. . .   
      
   > Oh, and WV also taxes one unemployment money when drawn on.  Money one   
   > has already been taxed on as well.   
      
   Ditto here -- ludicrous, but established fact now.   
      
   My brother had evidencde that the income tax & fecdferal sales taxes were    
   illegasl, so he refused to pay them when he could (like only paying the    
   perecentage of gas price that didn't include federal direct taxes); several   
   gas statiojns called the co9ps & my brother would stand his grond & ask them   
   under  which statute they were going to arrest him for & were they sure they   
   had a  legal sdtanding to do so -- btw, here's a copy of our Constitution, by   
   which  all laws must comply.   
      
   I believe your federal income tax is also illegal, but under a defintion of    
   "person" & they are not taxing according to legally allowable methods of    
   defining you.   
      
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