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|    JOE MACKEY to GEORGE POPE    |
|    Re: Terms of Endearment    |
|    17 Dec 21 09:13:28    |
   
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    CP wrote --   
      
   > I was a full-of-**** teen, run away   
      
    I was the good child.   
    My 12 years older (Mother's first marriage) brother was the wild child.   
    He hung around with semi-greasers, into things like drag racing on city   
   streets, etc.   
    My father got many middle of the night calls from the police and   
   sheriff's department after had been caught drag racing. He was never   
   arrested, just   
   "held".    
    After awhile my father got tired of this and told them to keep him   
   overnight, tell him nothing, and he would be by in the morning to get him.   
    That night in jail stopped a lot of that.   
      
   > From then on, all negotiatopns were done differently, by my dad -- no more   
   deep & quiet patience;   
      
    My father never raised his hand to me.   
    My mother OTOH was known to direct a well aimed smack to the back of my   
   head or my bottom from time to time. I usually learned after the first time   
   not to do that particular thing again. :)   
       
   > I was 17 by then, so it was now all pro forma, as on my 19th birthday all   
   could legally wash their hands of this troublemaking punk.   
      
    I was always told when I reached 18 I was on my own.   
    And two weeks after high school graduation I was on a east bound train   
   from Colorado to do just that.   
    And I have never depended on anyone after that. (Except for a job, paid   
   housing, etc).   
    My mother taught what I needed to know to be independent and self   
   reliant.   
      
   > > My father was "Doc". He was a GP and what everyone called him,   
   including family members. My mother called him that when referring to him by   
   name.   
   >    
   > Cool! Big city or small town?   
      
    Medium size.   
    Huntington at the time had a population of about 80,000 people within the   
   city limits. Many have fled to the suburbs and neighbouring states (lower   
   tax reasons mostly) starting around 1960 when the decline began but the metro   
   tri-state pop. is around 100,0   
      
   > > My brother was always Charles, through his friends called him Mack,   
   short for Mackey.   
   >    
   > Never Charlie or Chuck?   
      
    Nope.   
    He dislikes being called Charles, just as I dislike being called William   
   (or any variation of that).   
    His son was named Charles but always went by Chuck.   
    (Charles is an old family name on my mothers side, her father was   
   Charles). William is an old Mackey family name and inflicted on some innocent   
   child over the years. My father was William. Probably one reason he went into   
   medicine so he would be called D   
       
   > > My sister Mary was always called Sissy, even by her friends.   
   >    
   > Cute. Didn't know that happened outside of literature.   
      
    That was a nickname my brother (also named Joe, who was killed in the   
   Pacific in 1945) who was two years older than she called her since he had   
   trouble saying Sister as a little boy. ("Leave my Sissy alone" instead of   
   "Leave   
   my sister alone").   
    But Sissy was a tough old bird who could handle herself, being a tomboy   
   and all.   
      
   > It took he & I 20 years(mostly estranged) to become brothers   
      
    Mack and I aren't close either. When I was eight he was married and on   
   his own and by 10 I was an uncle.   
    He and Leona were high school sweethearts and still together after 63   
   years.   
    Joe   
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