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   JOE MACKEY to GEORGE POPE   
   Re: Teaching   
   20 Nov 21 06:51:34   
   
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      Cyberpope wrote --   
      
   > True enough; my seeming natural affinity for reading & English styuff in   
   school goes back to my mom teaching me young & instilling a love of reading   
      
     When I was growing up there were always books in the house, then I found   
   the school library, then the public library.  Books can open up a whole new   
   world to people.   
     Unfortunately many parents just plop their young ones in front of the   
   one-eyed babysitter and never instill a love of reading into the kids, probably   
   because the parent was never taught that.   
      
   > I read adult scifi   
      
     I am a non-fiction reader, mostly history, science, biographies, etc.   
      
   > Heinlein- then reread as ab adult to discover another world in his writings)   
      
     I am like that with news.   
     I read/listen to both sides and make my own decisions.  Of course I agree   
   more with the writer who shares my opinion on things.  :)   
      
   > Sure, it was lurid, but it put it all in a perspective   
      
     Perception is very important on any subject.   
      
   > schools don't teach "history" they force the memorisation of names(people &   
   places) & numbers, usually out of contect of the nmotivations involved.     
      
     It is very important to not only know dates of events (your example of   
   The Great War, Arch Duke Ferdinand, etc).  But it is also very important to   
   know the background of why it happened.   
      Sure he was shot in 1914, Germany, England, France, Russia went to war   
   but what were some of the underlying reasons aren't taught or skimmed over.     
      The British Empire is seldom mentioned seeing Germany as a competitor in   
   colonies (mostly in Africa), Germany building a navy to compete with   
   England, the Austro-Hungarian Empire about to collapse from inside making room   
   for   
   Germany, which had only been a    
     Then add in the reason for colonies and empires, which was mostly based   
   on trade, not just conquering some country because they were weaker, etc.   
      To often there is little context taught.   
      History doesn't happen in a vacuum.   
      
   > Nobody's learning from history, because nobody's teaching it any more, to   
   kids, anyway.   
      
     Yep.  --sigh--   
      
   >  >   Sort of like people believed X because society thought Y.     
   >    
   > Yup, & this is readily accessible now by digesting popular TV, movies, &   
   books.   
      
     Too often movies and tv don't give a subject a lot fact and often is one   
   sided.   
     If one wants to present some one-sided argument about something, fine,   
   just be honest about not try and pretend its the only side.   
       
   > & other kneejerk isms, like "war solves nothing." (hmm? Slavery, Nazism?)   
      
     And notice how suddenly that side wants to change the subject?   
     Or the "Yeah, but" argument.   
      
   > I'd love to terach,    
       
      I do a lot of training for new parking enforcement officers but I   
   quickly get bored repeating the same thing often either "by the book" or out in   
   the field.   
      I could never be a teacher repeating the same thing several times a day   
   in a class.   
      Once every couple of months is about my limit.  :)   
      Joe   
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