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   Message 22,959 of 24,715   
   George Pope to JOE MACKEY   
   Re: Teaching (was: Re: Responsiblity)   
   19 Nov 21 09:54:06   
   
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    >   Cyberpope wrote --   
      
    > > I hated history as a student, because I was ripped off & never given a   
    > > teacher who loved it.   
      
    >    That goes for most any subject.  You have to have a love of any subject   
    > to be a good teacher.     
    >    Some just read from the book.  Poor teachers.   
    >    Others will make whatever the subject happens to be come alive.  Good   
    > teacher.   
      
   True enough; my seeming natural affinity for reading & English styuff in school   
   goes back to my mom teaching me young & instilling a love of reading by   
   example, & by furnishing me with many choices at & beyond my apparent level,   
   and including much of that which my current interests were.   
      
   I read adult scifi(e.g. Asimov) before reading young persons' scifi(e.g.   
   Heinlein- then reread as ab adult to discover another world in his writings)   
      
   I read the original text fairy tales (all murders, rapes, beating,   
   dismemberings intact in full gory detail) at around age 6 or 7 & was not   
   damaged by such, asd the censorial types suggest is inevitable.   
      
      
   Sure, it was lurid, but it put it all in a perspective -- these were warning   
   stories, not a handbook on advoisory behaviours.   
      
   I read the Bible fully at a young age, too -- inductively, drawimg my own   
   conclusions, & triggering questioins I asked my Sunday School teachers, who   
   were lovely women, who didn't gedt offended, & answered  aptly & age   
   appropriately. I've since learned these were extremely rate then & even more so   
   now. . .   
      
   I later taught Sundsy Sdchool mysdelf & carried on the traditions I received:   
   answering all questions without dithering. I had one 10-year-old whom I   
   referred to the elders for baptism. I had to argue the case, but they agreed,   
   even though it would cosxt the church money. I just didn't care -- do what is   
   right, I said & they had to agree once they 'got it,' too.   
      
   This isn't current religion; it's about appropriately teaching, even with a hot   
   button subject!   
      
    > > I'm not even narrowing my focus down -- just whatever humans were doing at   
    > > any place or time in the big Ago.   
    >     
    >   I like to start at one point and carry that forward, rather than hop   
    > skipping around:  This/that event caused whatever to happen which lead to...   
    >    IOW putting things into perspective.   
      
   Same, as I figured out whjaty tyhey m,eant by "those who don't learn from   
   history are doomed to repeat it"; schools don't teach "history" they force the   
   memorisation of names(people & places) & numbers, usually out of contect of the   
   nmotivations involved.  Nobody's learning from history, because nobody's   
   teaching it any more, to kids, anyway.   
      
   I, thankfully, being an avid reader, have connected to authors who love the   
   subject and write from various POVs, in enjoyable reads.   
      
   They only tauight me there was a war that went from 1914-11/11/1918.   
   Why? I easily found: "the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand."   
   Why was he killed & to what goal? (still seeking this bit)   
      
    > > I'm not a Historian, per se -- more an Anthroplogist    
      
    >   Often the two go together.   
    >   History reflecting the place/society of the time.   
    >   What people thought as well as what they did.  One often explains the   
    > other.   
      
   Yup, just like I enjoy reading the letters in the newspaper as well as the news   
   stories.   
      
    >   Sort of like people believed X because society thought Y.     
      
   Yup, & this is readily accessible now by digesting popular TV, movies, & books.   
      
    >   And why some people rejected what society thought and changed history.   
      
   People say, "One person can't change the world"; I now know to reply, "It's   
   only ever been done by one person."   
      
   & other kneejerk isms, like "war solves nothing." (hmm? Slavery, Nazism?)   
      
    >   I went to parochial school and often taught by Jesuits who brought   
    > philosophy into most everything they taught.  Not deep scholastic teaching   
    > but to   
    > just think things through for the "why" of history.  Not just this or that   
    > happened why did it happen then a   
      
   Lucky!   
      
   It's all the whys & wherefors; the whats, whens, & hows are too easy.   
      
    >    When Trivia Pursuit was a popular game people refused to play with me   
    > since I won so often.   
    >    I have a head full of "useless" information.   
      
   Same here; I knew how to maximize each die roll to hit green squares(science &   
   nature) as often as possible, then I was unstoppable. On Sports(for the   
   obligatory pie questions), I had to hope for a games question, especially ones   
   I know!   
      
   I miss the game, but get some fun playing iPhone trivia tournaments, seeimg how   
   quickly I can zip to best in my country, or world. . .   
      
   I'm more a parlour game for socializing kind of gamer, but that period was in   
   the 1800s & not so much around now. . .   
      
   I figured out I develop a sort of Game Theory strategy in any activity I'm in:   
   assess the goal & the most efficient way to get there, including benefitting   
   from chance & randomness when they inevitably make ab appearance.   
      
   I'd love to terach, but getting a 5-year education at this point is out of my   
   reach. I get opportunities in my jobs & volunteering, to keep the interest &   
   interaction skills.   
      
   I've got so many ways I can jumpstart into some paying options, but covid put   
   the kibosh on so much. . .   
      
   Your friend,   
      
   <+]:{)}   
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