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      Cyberpope wrote --   
      
   > I debarte ideas, not emotions. & that's what I believe you & I have been   
   successfully doing exactly that in this thread.   
      
     I'm the same way.  Emotions change, facts don't.     
     Here we can disagree/debate and still get along.     
      
   > This is why I prefer working directly for owners   
      
     My chain of command is short.  There's my captain then the owner of the   
   security company.   
     In parking I am directly under my civilian boss, who reports to the chief   
   of police who reports to the VP of the university.    
     When I worked in produce for 15 years in the '80s and early '90s, there   
   was just the owner, myself and another fella.   
      
   > I dn't cswre whjat duities I have, so long as the clock is running & I'm   
   getting paid in full(amount as agreed) & on time.  Every job is basically   
   "other duties as required." & I'm good with that.   
      
     And that covers a lot of territory!  :)   
     When I'm on the clock I give it my all.  Even if its just warming a   
   chair.  :)   
      
   > Mostly I jockey to where I'm self managing & just get stuff done on my time   
   & terms. & I'm always added value to the company.  No other way, in my   
   worldview. It's frustrating there's so few, like me, left.   
      
     Yep.   
      
   > > the emperor said unless the blockadse was lifted, they were going to   
   > > attack the USA's Pacif naval base on 7 December of that year (1941)   
   >    
   >  >   Citation please.   
   >    
   > 'twas a book I read back in '85 or so, written by a retired US 5-star   
   General, & that's literally all I can come up with as a citation. Oh, also, it   
   was written within five to ten years of the end of the war.   
      
     Did he cite anything or was it just rumour and the like?   
      
   >  >   Before Hitler could attack the Americans, he had to first secure Europe   
   for staging, supplies, etc.   
   >    
   > No argument with these facts.  But Japan wasn't helping in Hitler's   
   > domain(Europe( & he wa focused on his activities there he wasn't doing didly   
   for Japan.  We saw, with Russia, how much Hitler's alliance agreements were   
   worth.  Pretty sure Japan noted this.     
      
     Hitler's alliances weren't worth the paper they were written on.   
     IMO Hitler had planned to conqueror Russia, which would put him on   
   Japan's doorstep.     
     From there he could have moved in on Japan.   
     To Hitler the Japanese were a lesser people (as were all non-Aryans) and   
   used them as merely strange political bedfellows, which would change once he   
   had Europe, the middle east and Russia under his control.   
      
   > Plus, Japan attaxcked us on the same date   
      
     Along with several other countries in the Pacific.   
      
   > We did sam,e as yuou, & rounded up all Japanese on the coazt & put them in   
   internment camps in the Interior.   
      
     I can see both sides of that.  One it was racist against all Japanese.   
     The other side, which I lean towards, is for their protection.   
     Popular opinion was highly anti-Japanese (and had been for some time on   
   the West Coast) and it might not have taken much to start trouble for them.   
     Part of the problem on the west coast was people wanting the land owned   
   by the Japanese (immigrants from Japan, the Issei and their children, the   
   Nise).   
     Plus, there were labour problems with the Issei and Nise willing to work   
   for lower pay, thus reducing American wages.   
     With the Japanese gone people could get their land and property for   
   little or nothing.   
     Its all rather complicated.   
     Joe   
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