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> I took a quiz on my smartphone on TV shows from the 1970's. Of the 50
> questions, I only missed 5 -- I'd say I know my stuff. :) I will admit
> that some of the questions I "guessed" on, and got right.
Kids don't get it -- we older folks can guess more truth than they've ever
known.
Our gueses ate based on reality, experience, & facts.
One guy in a TED talk said that when older folks are wrong, they're still more
right than the young'uns. Because so much more went into their answer than the
younger can even imagine!
My likely late friend, Jim Rosatti, had a line to me when we argued, "I've been
28, but you ain't been 58!"
I had to admit, it is a fair point. I get it more now that I'm in my '50s.
(I'm 48+12% sales taxes)
> Here's some MEMORIES for the folks in here -- some of the shows included
> "M*A*S*H", "The Mary Tyler Moore Show", "The Bob Newhart Show", "The Odd
> Couple", "Happy Days", "Mork And Mindy", "Laverne And Shirley", "My Three
> Sons", "The Brady Bunch", "The Partridge Family", "Hawaii Five Oh",
> "Charlie's Angels", "The Love Boat", "Sanford And Son", "Three's Company",
> "Good Times", "One Day At A Time", "Alice", "Taxi", "Welcome Back, Kotter",
> and "Murder She Wrote". One they didn't note was one my late Mom and I
> loved with Chad Everett and James Daly..."Medical Center". We also loved
> to watch "Bewitched" and "I Dream Of Jeannie".
I don't know Medical Centre, but he rest I sorta recall as I watched most.
> It's hard for me to sit at the computer for long periods of time
> anymore...and it's also getting to be the same for lying in bed, with
> the arthritis. Man...I can't stand, sit, or lie down for long periods
> of time...talk about being a basket case. :P
I don't like long viewinghs, so I'm more into sitcoms -- a nice 30-minute funny
story fully wrapped up within 22-24(24 for he '70s) minutes (plus ad time, of
course) & the sacting was real then -- the actors became their characters &
their dialogue & microreesponses were authentic. With enough watching of one
program, you could feel you were part of that family/situation (made fun dreams
on occasion!)
Don't be a basket case -- you know where baskets are headed, eh? On the
highway, yet. . .
> My eyes and back are hurting now, so once I finish this QWK packet
> (I've been at this thing for at least 2 hours working on replies),
> I'm going to get some dinner, and take my evening medications. I
> didn't think I'd make this reply so long...but first, they couldn't
> get me to talk...now, they can't get me to shut up.
I've never been the quiet type, ask anyone who knows me & those who knew me as
a child, even!
> GP> What means "current religion"?
> Prosletyzing (sp?). Things like church bulletin bloopers (always love
> those) are OK. Originally, the late Grady Nutt and the late Jerry Clower
> were the only "Christian Comedians" I knew...but of late, I've watched
> routines of Mark Lowery and Chonda Pierce, on YouTube. At least with
> these folks, the humor is all G-rated.
Lots of good Christian comics on Youtube, I like Tim someone or other. . .
> It's like society considers a movie with a G-rating "a death sentence".
> They'd be surprised how many of us prefer good, clean, funny humor. The
> late Red Skelton, George Burns, Bob Hope, Jack Benny, and so many others
> who are no longer with us, proved that "you don't have to be dirty to be
> funny".
Foir Hollywod, it's all about numbers. You & others may like the G-rated, but
you don't go to them in droves to gt them their money back.
Directors are careful to ensure their movie crosses in to R territory, because
that's a big moneymaker by itself!
I now what you mean, but recognize it's a historical t hing onlyh now.
I've said it: Look at the big Bible blockbusters -- they made millions, now
Hollywood is mocking religion wuith the likes of "Jesus of Montreal" & every
one of these movies BOMBS! but which do they insist on making? Not too bright,
I'd say.
People avoid those offensive ones, but flock to the titillating R-rated ones.
I'm happy with a PG-16 range of humour. Some swears, when they enhance the
hunmour & aren't just gratuitous use. But leave the murders & sex out of
sight.
Directors in the old days used allusion to convey when it was needed to the
plot, like fireworks, or even a waterfall. Or, as they edged downward, a train
going intgo a tunnel, etc.
I could figure it out when they entered a room together & closed the door after
kissing passionately.
Somne cultures consider a man & woman married if they are in solitude in a
closed room together.
If a persaon is concerned about reputation, just don't get into seclusion with
someone who might be deemed a sexual partner.
Problem today with all the loosey-goosey defintinsis a man can bring in a male
roommate to help with rent costs, & live together a year, then part ways for
ahy reason,. & the other guy can go to court claiming palimony & half his
stuff(California, & other community property states)because they were living as
married. It's a lie, but how can the defender prove it, without sounding like
"did not, did not, did NOT!"?
I'm waiting for one of these to hit the news. . .
In olden times the lawsuit would be tossed out by the court clerk with a
laughing "Foxtrot Oscar" to the plaintiff.
True story from the '90s: in California, a man was accused f being the father
of his ex-girlfriend's baby. The judge ruled he had to pay child support until
the child was 18.
Sounds like a non-news item until you read deeper & discovered:
-they never had sex (his claim)
-the paternity blood tests were all negative (fact)
-the judge explicitly said, "I don't care that it's not his--every child needs
a father to support it."
Yipe!
Some thing like ghis could happen to a poor hetero man or woman by a vindictive
(or just greedy) ex-roomie.
I've never had a roommate, & was perfectly happy that way; I lived with an ex-
girlfriend for a tiome, but we were planning to get married & ready & willing
to raise our child(I got her pregnant, not knowing she was already 18 months
pregnant at the time) along.), but I takes my chops. I did get her pregnant
with one of the two embryos, so I was prepared to do my responsibility.
She ended up miscarrying both, so it became mot, but we were in love & planning
our wedding by then, so kept on doing so until the relationsihp broke down.
Unbeknownst to us, we were both too young & immature for parenthood or marriage
& that naturally led to us breaking up & going our own ways.
I only wished her & her new husband + baby well. (better thabn 50% odds the
child is mine, but they were committed to raising her & loving her in a way I
was unable to do at the time, so I could only wish them well, with God's, & my,
blessings.
I accept reality as I accept gravity -- I don't try to balk either in their
domain, as it can only lead to pain for me.
> I like what the late Jerry Clower said one night in a routine in
> Louisiana. He said "if you don't intend to laugh at anything, go home and
> look in the mirror...and see what everyone else has been laughing at all
> these years".
Oooooh, I like that one!
Also:
If one pertson calls you an ass, ignore them.
If two people call you an ass, laught it off.
If three people call you an ass, start feeling for a tail.
Sorry, I don't have your recall for sources. "Unknown" it m ust be; only the
rare few sit in my menmorty properly -- W. Bruce Cameron, George Carlin, & Dave
Barry, where I can identify their work even if I've not read it before.
> Another good example was the late Archie Campbell, when he did his
> spoonerism stories (he called them "bedtime stories for adults" (you
> can find these on YouTube), of Rindercella (who went to the bancy fall,
> and slopped her dripper), and of The Pee Thrittle Igs (where the wolf
> huffed and puffed, and hoed her blouse down). On the latter, I about
> wet my pants, as I was laughing so hard. Never mind the story of the
> snakes hissing in the pit...you can get tongue tied on that one in a
> hurry.
I had most of those collected from this echo, without attribution, back in the
'90s. One of my favorite sets of funnies. I just opened yp a retro website
with his stuff. Gonna add one or two to my next Metric Dozen.
Another good one for clean funny stories is Bob Newhart's talking to himself
stories, including "Bus Drivers' School" & "Introduction to Tobacco"
> Or like the tagline "After this post, we're back on topic".
I will, when I get more time & energy, create an "Off Topic: group on Facebook.
Used to have one in FamilyNet back in the day, for Christian or other
discussion that didn't fit into one of the defined echoes.
> Except for autoposts with BBS and networks ads (the frequency of these
> posts per day, for the same BBS or network, is overwhelming), most echoes
> are dead. I avoid the "flame" echoes...because I believe "if you can't say
> something nice, keep your mouth shut".
Oh, I would not allow autoposts, except if this one guy is still around who
provided a monthly stats report into the echo.
FidoNet is for PEOPLE to interact. Beter than Usenet in that replies addressed
to you by name so you can read those first in your reader. On Usenet, you need
to read all to eventually get to yours. Modstly spam & flames to wade through
on UUNET, so I've left it behind again.
> Joe Mackey has told me some bizarre stories of where he works a college
> campus parking lot, ticketing violators. Some have been in here, and some
> have been via email.
> The most recent bizarre case (I said he had met Dumb Dora, Dumb Donald,
> and Bertha Blonde's family) was where this woman had parked in a fire lane.
> When he told her she couldn't park there, she went right over to park in a
> handicapped spot...and all Joe could do was sigh. :P If her car had been
> red, she probably would've felt she was qualified to park there.
We've got city bylaw for that -- they can be fined $400 for illegally parking
in an accessible-marked spot.
We've most recently amended the bylaws to allow for side loading wheelchair
vans, which need an even wider area on one side, & included new signage.
I was on several committees that helped shape this -- this is how I have fun
thees days. . . influencing politics at every level (not too much at federal
yet, where I tried, unsuccessfully, to kill a bill that made it legal to
euthanise disabled people against our will); my next federal one is either or
both of:
-making proper housing a basic human right in our Constitution
-providing 14 years free education instead of just 12.
Working on building my allies right now. . .
I, & others weren't, wasn't prepared well enough for that bill.
> The bottom line is that folks are lazy. I've seen many able bodied folks
> get on the handicapable scooters, but when the battery runs out, and the
> cart stops, they just get up, take their groceries, and walk off. I've seen
> several memes where "there was a healing in the liquor aisle". :P
We, the disabled community here in BC, are pointing out that just because a
person stands or walks does not mean they shouldn't necessarily be in a
wheelchair--that's between them & their doctor/OT/Physio. . .
> Joe also notes he has this portable camera deal, along with the electronic
> ticket book. The pictures never lie, and it's amazing what folks will say
> and do to get out of a ticket. And, if they don't have their tickets paid,
> they get other restrictions on them...and at times, the local constabulary
> "gets interested". It is so funny when they get "busted".
Scofflaws should be the ones paying for the infrastructure to keep communities
well-run & safe.
Why, should I, Joe Blow, any honest law-abiding citizen be the one paying for
parking enforcement departments & court challenges?
> I love reading Joe's posts on these, no matter how many times I've read
> them. It brings to mind the saying that "duct tape can't fix stupid, but
> it sure helps mask the noise".
Silence is golden. . .
Yes, but duct tape is silver. . . (photo of child with mouth bound up)
> Nowadays, you're so afraid to say anything as someone will be offended.
> However, I've rarely seen Joe had to lower the boom here. Admittedly, I
> have to practice my groveling at times. But, I did have the extreme
> pleasure of meeting Joe as he was traveling around the country awhile back
> (this was before all the crap with COVID-19).
Most peopple, especially the ones old enough to be from the OG BBS/Fido scene,
tend to be better behaved. or at least respectful when informed of how they've
broke a rule.
> That's when life was much simpler, and you could have your doors unlocked
> at night. As the old Virginia Slims cigarette ad noted in its slogan,
> "You've come a long way, baby" -- I'd say so...for the worst. :P If you
> mention a lot of these old products and slogans, people wonder what planet
> you came from.
Can't dwell on those times, much as they were better, because the keyword is
"were" (or "was"); Time marches forward only.
Our job is to accept this & adapt to it as needed.
Corporaste greed got us where we are, with promises of "live how you want; be
free to do anything, or nothing, if you buy. . X."
Don't shower, that takes too much time & trouble, just spray yourself with body
spray X!
Don't wash your hand after using the toilet, just spritze with this gel. Oh,
yes, certaiunly serve up food after doing so. . . it's YOUR life, is it not? &
Walmart(et al) is here to help you live it to your best choices.
> And, we didn't worry about the monkey bars, riding bikes, getting skinned
> up, eating mudpies, drinking from the hose, etc. Now, parents are so darned
> paranoid that their kids will become deathly ill, unless they're drowned in
> hand sanitizer. Doing stuff that we did built up all the immunities that
> helped us stay well later in life. And, they consider stuff like bikes and
> monkey bars as "too dangerous".
Best to learn pain young when it doesn't permanently damage you. Get a scrape,
get a minor infection, suffer & boohoo to mommy, but go on with a lesson
leaerned deeply.
Sure, have worms crawling out your butt, but never again run around barefoot
where the dogs do their business.
Now, at 25 when someone says to wear these special beach shoes because rockfish
spines can kill you, you don't argue, because you already know that proper
footwear protects from all sorts of things Nature throws at you.
> I'm also of "the old school", where "children should be seen and not
> heard, and not speak unless spoken to. Then, it's 'yes/no ma'am/sir'".
> If the kids are well disciplined and behaved, that's fine. But, most
> kids nowadays are so disrespectful that it's disgusting. When the little
> kid cursed his Mom (you know which one I'm talking about, George), all I
> could do was shudder.
I believe we've moved past that & we need to start teaching our kids to be
adults sooner, & how to communicate as such. It's a far different world they
go into than we did.
My son knows to speak respectfully to all, & to recognize that older people
have knowledge & wisdom he doesn't. But we involve him in household budget
converasationsd - he doesnt get a vote, of course, & he knows that.
Our family is not a democracy -- it's a parentocracy.
> GP> We were hitchiking starting about age 8.
> I'd be scared to death to do that now.
Me, too, especioaklky being so physically vulnerabkle -- back when I was 13-15,
I could run like the wind to escape a serial killer. Now, not so much. . .
I know how to use my mouth to get out of danger, but some whackjobs are beyond
communicating like humans. Thus I was trained in some Krav Maga basics,
including surviving a knife or gun attack. (for a pistol -- most are Glocks or
similar & cannot refire if the barrel is grabbed & squeezed tight)
From my years of being bullied & grabbing ahold of a fence or bymper to avoid
being dragged to whatever new torture they had planned, I have vice grips grip
when I need to.
> We had to be home when the street light in front of our house came on.
That was standard here, but I had a watch & had to be home for supper by 5,
then by 7 for wind-down time.
> GP> I've left my bike overnight sometimes because the only danger was that
> GP> your friend might hide it to try to scare you that it was stolen.
> GP> My! How it's all changed!
> And, far for the worst, sadly.
In some cultures. Word is in Japan, if you leave your bike unattended for a
month, it'll be exactly where you left it, & not joyridden either.
Umbrellas get left on the train & sit there for a week until the same person
rides it again & sees it.
Doors aren't locked. Many likely don't even have locks!
> When I did an afternoon newspaper route nearly 50 years ago in south
> Florida, around Christmas, I'd purchase and place a Christmas card in
> each subscriber's paper. At that time, I collected $1.20 every 2 weeks
> (the paper only cost 10 cents a day, and it didn't publish on Sunday).
> Many folks would give me a $20 bill, and tell me to keep the change. I
> also usually put the papers on their porches for them (I delivered them
> from my bicycle after school was out), and got many of them to "pay by
> mail", where I didn't have to collect from them. That paper shut down
> long ago.
So you more than covered thecost of the cards, eh? Nicve one! I know you just
did it to gret them & thank them for being paying customers, but it did turn
out nicely for you, eh?
> Anyway, on my first date, I took this young lady in the choir (she
> sang soprano, and I sang tenor) to the choir banquet, but we both were
> still too young to drive. So, my parents drove me to her place, and
> took us both to the Hialeah-Miami Lakes Country Club (they were almost
> twin cities). Guys and girls were all dressed up spiffy and nice (suits
> and ties for the guys, then dresses and gowns for the girls). The meal
> was "London Broil" and all the trimmings. She said "her family ended up
> ordering out for pizza". Then, my parents picked us up afterwards,
> driving her home, then me to my home. Obviously, there was no hanky
> panky going on there...I think we were both 16 at the time.
Times are different.
Now if a girl is told to be careful it means "or you might get herpes, AIDS,
&/or pregnant" back then it meant "or you might get kissed"
Now which one has the worst long-range repercussions, eh?
Back then a girlfriend was someone you could kiss regularly & not fear Mono.
Now it's only used as a title for a relationship that has sex. :(
I like the older def, & still pretty much go by it. I've never been one to
chase only after "one thing" unless you mean "honest, committed love." (nobody
does any more *sigh*)
> Anyway, the new version is "Jack and Jill went up a hill, to do
> some hanky panky. Poor old Jill forgot her pill...and now, there's
> little Frankie".
Jack & Jill; went up the hill, each with a buck & a quarter; Jill came down
with $2.50; the rotten whore!
> Most folks want to work from 12 to 1, take an hour off for lunch, and
> get a full check. Hmmmm...sounds like politicians.
& sleep during that 12-1 if they're Senators up here, who are appointed for
life.
> There was a country song that said "Why don't you mind your own business,
> so you won't be mindin' mine??". The joke is that "I don't gossip, as the
> things we say about our neighbors is all true...and you'd better listen
> close the first time". :P
Then there was this new Baptist preacher who began prweaching against adultery,
theft, murder, getting a chorus of "AMEN!" & "Preach it, brother!" after each
point.
The next week he began preaching against gossiping, & an old lady in back was
heard muttering, "Now he's gone from preachin' to meddlin'"
> Besides, I have enough crap in my life, and enough I'll have to answer for
> one day. I won't have to answer for anyone else's transgressions, as it
> were.
True enough -- "each is responsible for his own crimes" as the prophet quoted.
> My late wife said that one time, her Mom (who died just over a year
> after my Mom died), saw a woman warning her disobedient child not to
> grab for, or do certain things in the store, or she'd spank him (she
> was the kids' parent, so to me, she had the right to).
> Well, the kid didn't comply, and Momma spanked her child. This other
> woman scolded her, saying "How dare you spank that child!!". The woman
> replied to her "Shut up!! Or, you're next!!" .
ooo, I like that one! :D
> My brother and I got more than our share of spankings growing up, and
> we consider ourselves better for it. This crap about "you can't spank
> them, as it'll ruin their self esteem" is pure garbage.
I agree 100%! I was a stubborn little imp & got a lot of belt whacks growing
up, but I'm a better person for it; I'd never even consider stealing, let alone
even touching that which isn't mine, nor do I lie.
> If you got a whipping in school, somehow, your parents found out about
> it, and you got a second whipping when you got home. And, if you varied
> that story in any way, you got a worse whipping.
Yup, no school whippings by my generation, at least up here.
> Now, they'd accuse you of assault, even if they were trespassing. So
> many think that "the rules don't apply to me"...in so many situations.
All this non-punishmenmt & free license for tyhe kids & those who complain
about spankings are also the ones wondering why crime is so high in their city.
. .
O say, "listen up, stupid, let me introduce you to a concept called Cause &
Effect."
> Well, Sunday came and went, and the 2 preachers met again for lunch.
> But, the exchange took an interesting turn. When asked how things went
> with the sermon, the pedal-less preacher lamented "Not like I thought
> they would". His partner asked "Didn't you preach the sermon on 'The
> Ten Commandments'??"...and was told "Well, I did...but I never got to
> 'Thou Shalt Not Steal'. When I got to 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery';
> I remembered where I had left the bicycle".
Tsk tsk, naughty, naughty. . .
Like the story of Tom & Joe.
Joe asked Tom, "Next Sunday, you spend time with the preacher afterward, keep
him talking at the door as long as you can, so I have time to get with his
wife."
Tom, being a good drinking buddy agreed.
After 3 or 4 Sundays of this the padsor could tell Tom was rteaching for
excvuses to keep talking & confronted him about it to ask what's going on.
In the face of authority, Tonm cracvked & told the truth. The minster said,
indly laying his hand over Tom's shoulders, "You should go home, Tom."
"Why," he asked.
"Because I'm not married."
Your friend,
<+]:{)}
Cyberpope, Bishop of ROM
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