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   George Pope to August Abolins   
   Re: XXY, YYX, he/she/it   
   10 Oct 21 12:49:31   
   
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    >  GP> The only objective fact in determining a person's rightful   
    >  GP> sex is the XY chromie that is in EVERY cell of your body.   
      
    > Apparently there *is* a condition that gives incumbent males an     
    > extra Y chromosone for XYY, Jacob's Syndrome.  There is also a     
    > situation where males can have XXY, Klinefelter syndrome.  But     
    > they are anything but normal.   
      
   Right, what's the incidence rate?  Enough to, apparently, flip all of socierty   
   on its ear & intreoduce "assigned male at birth" & "assigned female at birth"   
   asds the key options in sex/gender identification.   
      
   I was not assigned male at birth. I was born a male & here I am, still one!   
      
   Okay, God assigned me male, but are we going to take Him on?. Ive read what   
   happens when we do -- not healthy!   
      
   AFB makes sense in a cae where they had one of the above rare syndromes, & the   
   parents & doctor made a decision to do some surgery to make the genital records   
   clearly one way or the other.   
      
   Anyway, why does the DMV need to know what genitalia I have?   
      
   & why the tax agents?   
      
   You want to know if I'm male or female, here *unzip* take a picture, it'll last   
   longer!   
      
   & stop your bloody gossiping! Nobody needs to refer to me in the third person.   
   . . If you do, use mt full name, to avoid errors. . .   
      
   Not that anyone usdes the third person pronouns correctly anyway (they refer to   
   the most antecedent noun, not 3 nouns back, & not without a context to determne   
   who "he" refers to, being as "he' might be callijng himself "she" or "they")   
      
   Ludicrous.   
      
   I refuse to play.  I'm naturally a respectful/polite/kind person, but my   
   menmory really does suck.   
      
   I generally use breasts &/or beards to choose a title (Mr. or Ms.); if Im   
   'wrong' pleae opi.tely 'correct' me & tell me the one I should've used & I'll   
   apoligize & try to remnember.   
      
   &,, no, a sculpted 2mm deep 'pattern' on your chin is not a real beard -- it's   
   cosmetic artwork.  It could be drawn on herself by a breasted & vaginated   
   woman, & then I'm really confused.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    >  GP> I don't cware what people call themselves, or if they play   
    >  GP> dressup with clothes or surgety to be a different sex, in   
    >  GP> appearance; I'll call you he or she,. whatebver you   
    >  GP> prefer, but I'm well-read in my native language & I refuse   
    >  GP> to use a plural pronoun to refer to a singular human.   
      
    >  GP> I'll simply avoid using pronouns & only use his/her/its name!   
      
    >  GP> When in a modern group's meeting & asked my preferred   
    >  GP> pronouns, I say, "just 'you'; I'd rather you talk TO me,   
    >  GP> not ABOUT me!"   
      
    > I agree.  "You" and/or their name seems to be all that is     
    > required.   
      
      
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