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     Ron wrote --   
      
   > But I have to say that I've seen cyclists do bad things on their bikes too.   
      
     Oh, absolutely.  I see things like that nearly every day (go through red   
   lights, etc).  These give everyone on bikes a bad name.   
      
   > The cyclists that I've talked to like to say "bikes have the same rights on   
   the road as cars", to which I respond "Correct and they have the same   
   responsibilities and have to follow the same rules."     
      
     Yep.   
     One time I got into a "discussion" with a driver who had nearly caused me   
   to wreck when he cut me off.  In gist he said bikes were to be on sidewalks.    
   I said no, on the street.   
     I found the rules and regs for bikes for WV on the DMV website and   
   printed that off and carried it with me for a couple of years.  Never had a   
   need   
   to use it.   
     Many years ago I was coming home from work, stopping at red lights, etc.   
     At my corner I was pulled over by a old city cop.  This guy must of been   
   one of the first officers the city hired 150 years ago.   
     He said that bikes were to be stopped at red lights, WALKED through   
   intersections, and then ridden onto the next corner.   
     I told him that was the dumbest thing I had ever heard.  And I checked on   
   this (long before the internet) and could find no such ordinance or state   
   law.   
      A funny thing did happen.   
      He asked where I lived and he had pulled me over literally right in   
   front of my apartment.  I pointed across the street and said "there".   
      Don't get smart with me boy, he growled, and asked to see my license.     
      He then looked it, across the street and back to the license, gave me a   
   dirty look and handed it back to me.  :)   
      
   > Of course, the number of drivers I've seen out there who don't know the   
   rules are... well..  I'm good at math, but I can't count **that** high.   
      
     You and me both.  :)   
      
   > I know that I won't ride my bike on the roads around here.  I'll drive my   
   bike to the local trail and go from there.   
      
     We have bike lanes on some streets but many motorists ignore them.   
     I also see a lot of drivers who think the left turn lane is some some of   
   express lane to go through intersections.   
        
   > I remember a Kickstarter project that was a horn for a bike that sounded   
   just like a car horn.  Worked really good too.  8)   
      
      LOL.   
      Joe   
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