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   Message 1,046 of 2,445   
   mark lewis to Sean Dennis   
   MBSE, Sysops and distros   
   19 Jul 15 11:04:22   
   
   19 Jul 15 00:05, you wrote to me:   
      
    ml>> i do that with /home as a matter of principle... especially since i   
    ml>> don't want to break an user's private installs and such ;)   
      
    SD> I've installed MBSE four times under four different distros and NOT   
    SD> ONCE did I have a problem installing it to /opt.   
      
   i haven't said there was a problem installing to /opt... i said that i   
   normally have my /home as a separate drive/partition so that i can more easily   
   save users' home directories with their private installs as so many packages   
   seem to do if one doesn't have root access... eg: one system has no less then   
   four separate complete repositories and installations of FPC and Lazarus, one   
   for each of the four users using them... a system-wide installation fails when   
   one has to rebuild the compiler's or lazarus' sources for a new version...   
   individual installations allow for such with no need to bother the BOfH...   
      
    SD> So you're willing to install a publicly accessable server into your   
    SD> home directory?  Do you leave your home unlocked when you leave?   
    SD> That's just asking for problems.  MBSE is a system install, not a   
    SD> private user install, and it's set up that way...   
      
   i didn't say it would be installed in my or any other user's home directory...   
   it would have its own home directory the same way that sbbs has its own on   
   another machine...   
      
    SD> Not only that, but /home is actually an optional directory and not all   
    SD> systems even use /home.   
      
   i'm not using any other systems ;)   
      
    SD> From the MBSE manual:   
      
    SD> "MBSE BBS is default installed in /opt/mbse. It should be possible to   
    SD> install the bbs in a different location but this is not supported.   
    SD> Many have tried, and and only a few have succeeded. See Filesystem   
    SD> Hierarchy Standard for more info."   
      
    SD> It's done that way so the software will work correctly under every   
    SD> install, that's why.  You should realize this.   
      
   that's all fine and good but it is not really how i would like to install it...   
      
   [trim]   
      
    SD> So if you want to go breaking MBSE from its official distribution, go   
   right   
    SD>  ahead and do it.   
      
   whoa... there was a release that did install to /home... that change was   
   reverted in the repo but the change to /home was still done to start with and   
   it was done for a good reason...   
      
    SD> I didn't have any problem following directions, but just because   
    SD> others do, that doesn't mean you can go around breaking software just   
    SD> because of your ineptitude in INSTALLING IT.  I mean, if you can't   
    SD> even install the software right, perhaps you shouldn't be using it!   
      
   my deity, man... what are you frustrated about and why are you taking this out   
   on me?   
      
    SD> This isn't Windows where you can stick a program wherever you want and   
    SD> not worry about it. :)   
      
   no shit... we have only one winwhatever system around here any more... that's   
   one laptop that hasn't seen any real use since december... it was only being   
   used due to a dead workstation but since that workstation has been replaced   
   with yet another *nix system, that laptop is no longer used and sits in the   
   corner running dnet, mystic, taurus and dbridge... those last three being a   
   full node and two points...   
      
    SD> I've several patches I'm going to be giving Andrew (hopefully soon). I   
    SD> won't support any patches I've made unless MBSE is installed   
    SD> correctly. After nearly 20 years of supporting Cheepware, I've come to   
    SD> the conclusion that a majority of sysops are lazy and don't bother   
    SD> reading the directions. In the MBSE manual, it says that all distros   
    SD> may not work with MBSE, but it seems people overlook that fact and   
    SD> claim MBSE is broken.   
      
   whatever...   
      
   )\/(ark   
      
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