Folks, this was moved here from MAKENL_NG by me at Nick's request..
> Re: Processing nodelists with UTF?
> By: Janis Kracht to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 20 2012 11:04 pm
>> > Point taken. Basically _all_ mail goes through you, correct?
>> As I said, all three stars get all the echomail that goes through.. During t
>> process we take steps to can dupes that appear, so a better statement would
>> "all echomail goes through each Star system".
> So wait, basically you're saying you, Bob, and Ross are the "Star hubs?" Yet
You didn't realize that? Oh c'mon. It's not because of who we are or what
positions we hold, but more because of how many downlinks each of us has, and
each of our willingness to use our SYSTEMS for the good of the network .
> two out of the 3 take on a role of RC, and you are the ZC? Sorry, I thought
>things were different according to how most software is laid out. One ZC passe
> mail to however many RCs,
Man, you really need to read policy4.. RCs do NOT have to route netmail.
> those RCs pass mail to NCs in their region, and NCs
> pass mail to Sysops/nodes. That is, how it originally came to be, right?
THAT part is true... and it still is true.
>> Ross handles all netmail bound for Z3, Bob handles all netmail bound for Z2/
>> as an example.. As Star systems we each set up our individual *routing* for
>> netmail to accomodate these routings for netmail There are other routings i
>> use, but the above is an example of some of them.
> Yeah. That's a complete other discussion we don't need to get into. Just as
>well, we're taking this whole thing way off topic, and I apologize for that. I
> suppose I could move this part of the discussion to the Z1C echo.
I moved it for you, but I'll copy this to the makenl_ng echo for completness.
Please don't reply there, OK?
>> Because I am the ZC now however, I do have to maintain a direct connection w
>> each RC so that they can upload their regional segments here each week.. _So
some (jk)
>> of the 10 Z1 RCs also just happen to pick up echomail here, but not _all_ of
>> them do. A while back, I asked each of the RCs if I could route any netmail
>> for their regions to them directly and some of them agreed to that as well.
>> This is not something they "have" to do by their job description (read
>> policy4).
> And noone thinks this is a bad idea? The fact that you have to _ask_ and you
What part of it's NOT required don't you understand?
I asked them since if they agreed to it, it was as a favor to me, not because
they "have" to.. again.. READ policy4 !!
> noone _has_ to do a damn thing? Doesn't that make Fidonet sloppy? I always
>thought of this place as the origin for *rules* and *structure* when it came t
You are quite the legalist when it comes down to it..
> FTN technology. The fact that people don't _have_ to do anything, but they're
>allowed to take any job in Fidonet, is probably why netmail routing is screwed
>up, and echomail doesn't get evenly distrobuted. Noone sees this as a problem?
> Or is P4 like the bible for some of you?
How is netmail routing screwed up in Fidonet? I beg to differ. I think you
are just a person who doesn't like to admit when he's wrong or has no clue
about how the internals of Fidonet works.
> I don't use Golded or Timed, if you can crosspost this to Z1C and finish the
> discussion there, that would be just fine. Like I said, I apologize for going
>way off topic here, I just like to know how things work before involving mysel
> with it. :)
I say drop it until you have a clue, Nick. You need to:
1: read or re-read policy4
2: understand that previous ICs have ruled that echomail does NOT fall under
policy4... and I continue that tradition.
Take care,
Janis
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