Michiel,   
       
   Mv> Sorry to cause so much noise in here by showing up and giving Ward the   
   Mv> opportunity to continue his attempts to discredit me.   
       
   Allow me to crosspost something I wrote in ENET.SYSOP ...   
       
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   Date: 13 Nov 17  00:45:21   
   From: Ward Dossche   
     To: All Z2 Sysops   
   Subj: FTSC election   
   ____________________________________________________________________________   
   ..   
   Within hours of voting opening, he cast as predicted his vote so-called based   
   on a poll of his region, voting "no" for 3 people in this particular election   
   who actually kept the FTSC going for years: Bjorn Felten, Michiel van der   
   Vlist and Alexey Vissarionov (I hope I spelled it right).   
       
   Please help stop this madness and encourage your RC to defer casting votes in   
   negativity.   
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   Or from the R29 sysop-echo:   
       
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   Date: 13 Nov 17  15:38:33   
   From: Ward Dossche   
     To: Tom De Puysseleyr   
   Subj: Re: FTSC verkiezing   
   ____________________________________________________________________________   
   ...   
   TD>WD> Michiel van der Vlist ...   
   TD> Lijkt me in elk geval iemand die technisch wel op de hoogte is.   
       
   En die de FTSC trekt en in leven houdt. Haal hem er uit en het zit op zijn   
   gat.   
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   ... and ...   
       
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   Date: 13 Nov 17  11:24:26   
   From: Ward Dossche   
     To: Tom De Puysseleyr   
   Subj: Re: FTSC verkiezing   
   ____________________________________________________________________________   
   ...   
   De manier waarop hij 292 behandelde was niet netjes en het zou heel   
   gemakkelijk zijn in de huidige tijdsgeest om voldoende RCs op te ruien hem uit   
   de FTSC te stemmen ... maar wat dan? Hij is de enige die de zaak nog draaiende   
   houdt. Wie niet voor hem kiest hoort niet in Fidonet.   
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   To assist people from not having to resort to google-translate, the last   
   sentence reads... "He who doesn't vote for him does not belong in Fidonet".   
       
   Seems to me I have been singing your praise rather than discrediting you ...   
       
   I could have mentioned to people that you manually edited the net-292 segment,   
   but I haven't.   
       
   I could have mentioned to people that you pressured NC292 to change his   
   segment by writing him netmail and signing it with "Chairman FTSC" while you   
   publicly claim in FTSC-documents that the FTSC does not enforce, but I haven't.   
       
   And "yes", it was pretty silly how as RC28 you nominated yourself in the   
   FTSC-election, with the next message this time written as an individual sysop   
   accepting the nomination, and with the next message written as Election   
   Coordinator acknowleding the acceptance of the nomination. The collection of   
   hats you maintain is impressive.   
       
   Mv>  This is not the proper place for that.   
       
   Declaring something inconvenient off-topic ... now where have I heard that   
   before? In the FTSC-echo perhaps?   
       
   Take care,   
       
    \%/@rd   
      
   --- D'Bridge 3.99   
    * Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)