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   mark lewis to Andrew Leary   
   MakeNL bug with archived segments   
   11 Aug 17 23:19:10   
   
    On 2017 Aug 11 18:24:08, you wrote to All:   
      
    AL> I have discovered an issue that can manifest itself when archived   
    AL> segments are submitted to the next *C up the chain.  When archiving   
    AL> the new segment prior to submission, MakeNL doesn't check to see if   
    AL> the archive already exists.  The result is submission of an archive   
    AL> containing the new segment, as well as an older one.   
      
   i saw that on my system the other week... i figured it was simply because i   
   had it keeping so many old segments... as i needed some more drive space, i   
   just killed them off since they were old and out of date...   
      
   where i saw it was in my "master" directory (which is set via master as well   
   as outpath) in the z?? archives... i think janis ran into it some time back,   
   too... i have some here now that have up to three in them... the problem stems   
   from using just the last two numbers of the extension... there can only be 100   
   z?? files x00 through x99 and then the numbers start repeating again and thus   
   the archive extensions...   
      
   where i'm seeing this is actually at the zone level in the nodelist archives   
   that it creates... that ctl file also has "threshold -1 -1" in it... as this   
   is a testing zone, it isn't a big thing here but it is something that probably   
   should be taken care... the region and net segments being created here for   
   this testing zone do not compress anything or i'm sure i would be seeing it   
   with them, too... i'm not sure why the zone level is even creating z?? archive   
   files for distribution with "threshold -1 -1" unless it is something forced   
   from "make composite" or the existance of "arccopy" and "arcmove"   
   statements... the two test nets don't even have arccopy or arcmove defined...   
   the region and zone do but the region is not creating z?? files whereas the   
   zone is... hummm...   
      
    AL> There are two solutions that I've come up with:   
      
    AL> 1.  MakeNL check for an existing archive and remove it prior to archiving   
    AL> the segment for submission. 2.  When uncompressing incoming segment   
    AL> archives, compare file dates on all files unpacked and use the most   
   recent.   
      
    AL> What do you think?  I'm leaning towards number 2 first, as that will help   
    AL> in cases where the lower level *C hasn't upgraded his version of MakeNL   
    AL> yet.   
      
   i tend to lean toward #2 as well with the addition of deleting the other old   
   files that came in that archive, too... no since in trashing up someone else's   
   system with old garbage files... hopefully when they were extracted, they   
   didn't overwrite any that they might have had retained... but i guess that   
   depends on where you extract the files to before starting to work with them...   
      
    AL> As a work around, the problem can be avoided by disabling the   
    AL> compression of submitted segments by adding:   
      
    AL> THReshold -1 -1   
      
    AL> to your control file.   
      
   in this day in time, that might be a good thing to have as a default...   
   fidonet really doesn't need to compress things like it once did, does it?   
      
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