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   Nicholas Boel to Björn Felten   
   MakeNL v3.4.1 Release   
   29 Dec 13 10:43:52   
   
   Hello Björn,   
      
   On 29 Dec 13 15:14, Björn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche:   
      
    WD>> It has to be enabled "top down" and not "bottom up". Even the   
    WD>> developpers are not certain what will happen if it is done   
    WD>> bottom-up, I've read the whole segment could be dropped.   
      
    BF>    Chicken!   
      
    BF>    Why not live dangerous. Enable it and see what happens.   
      
   It wouldn't even be considered living dangerous. We *NEED* him to enable it    
   before anyone else can even try. Nothing on his end would be dropped, and    
   actually everything would work on his end. If ZC1 doesn't have it enabled,    
   though.. once a modified Z2 segment made it's way over here, it would get    
   screwed up.   
      
   We basically need ALL ZCs to enable it at once. Then all RCs, then all NCs for    
   absolutely no interruption in the transition of the nodelist. This will most    
   likely not happen since there's RCs and NCs that sometimes don't respond for    
   weeks at a time. But who cares? We've gone a few days with a hiccup somewhere    
   upstream before, and when things are restored it works again.   
      
   ZCs should enable it, and then any RCs that see that the ZCs enabled it should    
   enable theirs, and so on with NCs. There shouldn't even be any hiccups in the    
   creation of the nodelist, because when RCs and NCs finally SEE that there has    
   been a change, their current segments will still work, yet they have the    
   ability to change to the new way of listing unpublished numbers.   
      
   The only way it will break is if an NC makes the changes before their RC, or    
   RC changes before their ZC. So it's on the ZCs to make the move before anyone    
   else can do anything, and here we wait. :)   
      
    BF>    After all, most serious mail movers don't rely entirely on the   
    BF> nodelist any more. Almost everything will work just fine even with the   
    BF> entire zone 2 removed from the list.   
      
    BF>    At least the Fidoweb will easily survive one week without any   
    BF> problems at all...   
      
   Kind of.. Even if there was one messed up nodelist (which I don't see    
   happening as long as the top down methodology happens as it should), it's not    
   going to blow the whole world up (remember when Roy tried it? It errored at    
   his RCs system and that was the end of it. His netseg didn't make the    
   nodelist for one week.. whoop-dee-do! It was fixed shortly thereafter), and    
   even then, there is an entire week to fix it!   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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