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   Richard Webb to all   
   personal monitor mixing question   
   29 Oct 12 13:34:50   
   
   On Sun 2012-Oct-28 21:18, Marc Lewis writes:   
   ML> I can add a few comments here, Richard, as I work for Quantum   
   ML> Technologies, Inc. (parent company of Hear Technologies) as the   
   ML> technician/service manager.   
      
   ML> Hear Technologies makes the Hear Back personal monitoring   
   ML> system.  The basic system consists of a Hub and from one to 8 Hear   
   ML> Back Mixers.   
      
   YEp knew you'd be able to throw out something relevant.   
      
   The product that generated the thread that spun me off on   
   this tangent as I think I noted is one that one could   
   control with an iPhone iPod or iPad.   
   I note one significant thing I'm curious about.  YOu wrote:   
   ML> Each mixer (in its standard configuration from the factory) has 6   
   ML> individual and 1 stereo pair sets of controls plus a limiter   
   ML> control.  It has 2 independent headphone outputs and 2 line   
   ML> level outputs (left - right) as well as a line level input.   
      
   ML> There is an optional modification offered where the mixer loses the   
   ML> Limiter and becomes a full 8 channels.  The stereo 1-2 input becomes   
   ML> channel 1 and the limiter becomes channel 2; the rest of the   
   ML> channels remain unaffected.   
      
     I hope you folks recommend against that one, I can   
   understand offering it, but ... I never run headphone or   
   in-ear monitor (those little earbud) mixes without a   
   limiter. But then, to me that's a safety issue.   
      
   ML> In the service department I see lots of them (there are many tens of   
   ML> thousands out in the field.) The come from lots of   
   ML> churches, recording studios, educational institutions and   
   ML> individuals.   
      
   I'm curious how many of them you see where they've used that modification.   
      
   ML> Multimedia churches and recording studios comprise a large chunk of   
   ML> the client base, as do live performance sound reinforcement   
   ML> companies.  They all seem to love the flexibility of letting   
   ML> individuals control what they hear in their own monitor mix, without   
   ML> having to have an additional person sitting FOH to try and   
   ML> "administer" the monitor mix.  The compact in-ear headsets (ear   
   ML> buds) seem to be the favorite.   
      
   ML> The fact that all this is done over one cat 5 cable from the main   
   ML> mixer is a big plus.   
      
   OH yeah, it sure would be.  See our recent thread on digital snake for remote   
   truck .   
      
   ML> I'm going to defer to my colleague Charles Snoddy for further   
   ML> comment from the recording studio/performance standpoint... once he   
   ML> gets a few minutes in his crowded schedule to write his   
   ML> views.    
      
   Remember a lot of my work back in my live sound   
   reinforcement days was mixing monitors.  I recall when I   
   first read the phrase "friends don't let friends mix   
   monitors."  I've found though back when I was doing it that   
   performers who knew you were being diligent about getting   
   them what they needed to perform well did indeed thank you   
   for it.  i actually enjoyed it more than not.  When I didn't it was suually   
   working with less than professionals who   
   engaged in the volume wars all during the performance.   
      
   ML> Hopefully this will give you a little more understanding of the   
   ML> hardware end of at least the Hear Back version of the personal   
   ML> monitoring system.   
      
   I've sued one but only in the studio, and only in someone   
   else's.  ONe time, and this was years ago, producing an   
   album project for some people who were less than   
   professional.  I'm comfortable in my own skin getting a   
   blend of what I need to hear whether on stage or in the   
   studio, but my encounters with personal mixing stations were doing   
   producer/engineer, hence the other side of the glass.   
   MOst of the performers picked up on the concept and could   
   work with it, but one in particular couldn't quite wrap his   
   head around it.  I finally hooked a paralleled set of cans   
   up, set his mix up and told him to leave it alone from that   
   point on so we could finish the foundation tracks .   
      
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
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