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   Hello Maurice!   
      
   21 Jan 2024 17:51, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:   
      
    BP>> you miss my point   
    MK> Business as usual.  ;-)   
      
   maybe   
      
    BP>> i have a 80286 in my gvp amiga harddisk controller, so i could   
    BP>> use msdos   
    MK> I suppose except it escapes me why anyone would willingly do that.   
      
   i had hope you where amiga fellows in this years of developments where all we   
   like to see if msdos was possible with amiga, pc market was at that time crap   
   just like winCE :)   
      
    BP>> or maybe linux for 16 bit arch :)   
    MK> What are you smoking over there?   
      
   its only allowed in holland ?   
      
    MK> That was never possible as far as I    
    MK> am aware.   
      
   google irc on commodore 64 then ?, yes c64 do irc, now in 2024 it do downloads   
   from the internet, with help of a raspberry pi wifi board, that simply emulate   
   a cassette drive   
      
    MK> minix would be the only real choice if one wishes to waste    
    MK> electicity for little to no reward.  It's all abandonware for good    
    MK> reason.   
      
   minix was imho 8 bit not 16 ?   
      
    BP>> 64bit will not see any change on it   
    MK> So in other words it matters little to nothing whether or not a 64 bit    
      
   kernel 6.7.3 is now stable, so i upgraded :=)   
      
    MK> processor can emulate a lesser platform (32 bit) given nobody is    
    MK> noticing anyhow.   
      
   this is not possible on a 64bit kernel now, if you need 32bit support you will   
   now need a older kernel that still can emulate the 32bit api in a 64bit kernel   
      
    MK> Also where are you finding any REAL development on    
    MK> 32 bit platforms anymore?   
      
   is most not fortran now that compiles fine on 64bit ?, what about freepascal   
   then ?   
      
   gcc is not arch specifik, so if it compiles it self it works :)   
      
    MK>  Speaking for myself, I was more than happy    
    MK> to create my very first 64 bit system using dual p3's which are 32 bit    
    MK> given at the time there was no distribution that was pure 64 bit at    
    MK> the time.  It worked great once installed and booted on an actual    
    MK> x86_64 platform.   
      
   p3 is dead like my ibm quad core pii :=)   
      
   a raspberry pi is faster and use less power, unless one need heating aswell :)   
      
    BP>> gentoo gcc needs 4Gb ram to compile now, with 1Gb it does not work   
      
    MK> That doesn't surprise me.  Although I am not a big fan of bloat, in    
    MK> this case both economics and available applications make's current    
    MK> development extremely attractive.   
       
    i have giving the gentoo developpers a note on this, currently not fixed on   
   there side to come up with a solution on low mem gcc compile at all   
       
    rust is posssible to install precompiled, but not gcc   
       
    MK> Also when targetting a minimal    
       
    +1   
       
    MK> system, it doesn't require 4Gb of ram to run ...   
       
    fido.junc..eu runs on only 1024M of mem, plenty of spare ram to run fidonet   
   and my own vpn server, with my own root CA   
      
    MK> unless we're talking    
    MK> firefox and other greedy applications that really don't have much    
    MK> meaningful to offer in return.   
       
    it could maybe need less ram if not so much crappy homepages exists href=""   
   and src="" waste to parsing it   
       
    MK>  gcc is worth the extra bytes given all    
    MK> it has to offer in return.  These days that is a very rare trait and I    
    MK> for one am thankful for it.   
      
   #metoo   
      
    BP>> 8bit and 16bit hardware boards still lives on self made boards on   
    BP>> facebook, i wonder why ?   
      
    MK> I say they can keep them.  They have diddley-squat.   
      
   its a learning device   
      
      
    Regards Benny   
      
   ... too late to die young :)   
      
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