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   Kai Richter to Gerrit Kuehn   
   uefi   
   02 Jun 22 23:43:32   
   
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   Hello Gerrit!   
      
   01 Jun 22, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Kai Richter:   
      
    GK> The difference is that without UEFI you need DOS on the USB stick, not   
    GK> just your BIOS flash tool and image. Ever tried booting modern   
    GK> server-hardware under DOS and running BIOS-update tools from that?   
      
   No, i use PXE images for that. Doesn't have a modern server IPMI and does the   
   flash via ipmi bios image upload?   
      
    KR>> Same task, we need to kickstart the boot sequence.   
      
    GK> No, we need to come up with an environment that is able to run the   
    GK> flash tool the manufacturer provides.   
      
   No matter what OS runs for those tools - we still need to kickstart them.   
      
    GK> If this tool is for EFI shell, this is easy. Getting a DOS tool to   
    GK> run under DOS booted from a USB stick... your mileage may vary.   
      
   This is the responsiblity of the hardware manufacturer. Btw, let's look on the   
   uefi shell. It can read partitions and filesystems and load/start software   
   from. Do you remember toms root boot on a floppy disk? Basically it does the   
   same. The uefi shell is not a shell of the bios - it's an operating system. If   
   the flash tool is efi software the efi shell OS could be placed on the USB   
   stick too. And again, the only job of the BIOS (remember it's BASIC IO) is to   
   kickstart the boot sequence for an OS.   
      
    GK> I didn't mean to say that EFI might fully replace your rescue disk   
    GK> (whatever it looks like), it certainly doesn't. But in some at least   
    GK> for me quite common cases where you just want to get the system booted   
      
   Which common cases on uefi systems do break the boot process?   
      
    GK> it serves that purpose and relieves me from having to boot the rescue   
    GK> disk.   
      
   Regards   
      
   Kai   
      
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