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   Kai Richter to Gerrit Kuehn   
   uefi   
   30 May 22 02:12:04   
   
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   TID: hpt/lnx 1.4.0-sta 09-04-05   
   Hello Gerrit!   
      
   27 May 22, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Kai Richter:   
      
    GK>>> Some manufacturers provide firmware and bios update tools on efi   
    GK>>> meanwhile. In that case, you can just drop the new firmware and   
    GK>>> the upgrade tool on a USB stick and use UEFI-shell to run it   
    GK>>> from there.   
      
    KR>> So i have to wait until my BIOS company updates it's tools and i   
    KR>> can save them within the BIOS.   
      
    GK> Sorry, you lost me there.   
      
   Ups, i deleted that part. My point was that we have wait for the manufacturers   
   to provide firmware. This does happen out of our control anyway. No matter if   
   uefi or csm - in both cases we have to rely to the manufacturer. My bios does   
   have a flashtool inclueded but i have to format an usb storage device to fat32   
   and copy the bios to it. I don't see much difference if i dd an image or copy   
   the file. I see the efi partition as somthing like a permanent usb stick.   
      
    GK>>> In the MBR-days you would have needed to have a MSDOS-system on   
    GK>>> the USB stick in addition   
      
    KR>> Why DOS? We need to kickstart the boot sequence.   
      
    GK> I was talking about updating BIOS or firmware in your system here, not   
    GK> getting a broken system online again.   
      
   Same task, we need to kickstart the boot sequence. The differnce between uefi   
   and csm is the storage location of the whatever starting software.   
      
    GK> Updating usually involves some kind of Windows software.   
      
   My last one extracted a windows disk imager and copied the image to floppy.   
   Those are self-extraction compressed exes sometimes that can be unzipped or   
   unarj'd to get the real image.   
      
    KR>> I'v seen an EFI editor which my bios doesn't have. Now i've to   
    KR>> check if anyone provides this efi software.   
      
    GK> Which software are you looking for?   
      
   None. It looked like ee. uefi adds a layer of complexity. If i want to use   
   uefi like a rescue system i can't simply use my known tools from my disk. I   
   think i will stick on my rescue stick in case of trouble because the tools i'm   
   used to are available.   
      
   Regards   
      
   Kai   
      
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