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   Message 7,547 of 8,232   
   Gerrit Kuehn to Kai Richter   
   uefi   
   24 May 22 08:00:02   
   
   MSGID: 2:240/12 6251c1b6   
   TZUTC: 0200   
   REPLY: 2:240/77 628c54e8   
   CHRS: LATIN-1 2   
   TID: hpt/fbsd 1.9 2021-12-02   
   Hello Kai!   
      
   24 May 22 05:39, Kai Richter wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:   
      
      
    GK>> On the bright side, UEFI does reliably come with a shell (if   
    GK>> everything else fails) that allows starting other systems manually.   
      
    KR> I still don't see the need. Doesn't have any todays operating system    
    KR> have a boot manager? The result is that the menu to select the    
    KR> starting OS is moved from the disk to the BIOS.   
      
   I talked about cases where something is broken and your system doesn't boot   
   (maybe not even the bootmanager comes up). With MBR this means reconfiguring   
   BIOS boot order, probably getting some USB media to boot a rescue system from   
   it etc.   
   With the built-in UEFI shell, you can already check your partitions and even   
   select what to boot without having to reconfigure anything or to provide a   
   rescue system on USB. In many cases I was able to manually boot the failed   
   system with this and use the system itself then to fix booting.   
      
   Some manufacturers provide firmware and bios update tools on efi meanwhile. In   
   that case, you can just drop the new firmware and the upgrade tool on a USB   
   stick and use UEFI-shell to run it from there. In the MBR-days you would have   
   needed to have a MSDOS-system on the USB stick in addition (and hope that the   
   manufacturer would still provide a DOS-based update tool that is able to run   
   on your newly bought server or workstation).   
      
      
   Regards,   
   Gerrit   
      
   ...  8:00AM  up 62 days, 13:06, 8 users, load averages: 0.21, 0.39, 0.43   
      
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