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     Re: Old Distro Broken Browser   
     By: Alexey Vissarionov to Brad Hansen on Sun Aug 29 2021 11:55 am   
      
    >AV  What prevents just recompiling these programs? On better systems, that   
   may be done with a single run of rpmbuild. On really good systems, the   
   packages are rebuilt in a clean   
      
   Think about it.. most major changes installs want 2 things - apt update and   
   apt upgrade then pull in your browser.   
   Kind of hard to do if your current system relies on your current libraries.   
      
   It's retro old stuff not availiable on internet built to specfic so lib   
   My memory is not like it used to be.. You ever spend hours on a project and   
   think to yourself   
   how did I do that.. Or type so much stuff you really don't rememeber what you   
   did.  It just   
   started working and you wowed yourself but really didn't take any notes....   
      
   It's a Ubuntu Linux Server.   
   It's Vintage Computing, Like this BBS your on.   
   I get that, an update to what's out would fix it.   
   Linux Runs fine on my VM..no problems  my Vintage stuff will not run on a   
   updated distro.   
      
   I was asking, is there any Browsers that have SSL lib built in that don't rely   
   on updated system files or kernel.   
      
   >AV fresh-installed environment from a git tag to the binary archive (.rpm)   
   with one single command.   
      
      Tried that like you said it is built against the libssl, won't let me   
   update because it wants to   
      update the whole system.  I have tried to update SSL. you can make a mess   
   out of it by not using apt,   
      I am running stuff I compiled from way back that my Vintage Game Server   
   uses, it is far more important.   
      updates will break everything. running apt-get upgrade would make it far   
   worse.   
      Most of it that is server releated runs better then a modern current   
   release of 20.04 I have 2 VM's of the   
      most current version.  Even doing updates, still breaks stuff.  Akonadi   
   server was common to break after an update.   
      
      
      
   >AV There's only one real browser, and it could be rebuilt that way. Also,   
   it's possible to keep several versions of OpenSSL (libcrypto+libssl) in one   
   system simultaneously (0.9, 1.0, 1.1.0   
     and 1.1.1).   
      
      
   I'm not sure how that works against a way older kernel.   
      
   > Build it. However, deb-based systems are very unfriendly in that.   
    Your not kidding...   
      
    > No: browsers are linked against libcrypto+libssl.   
   I get that.. The only real fix is to update to latest release.   
      
   Again, Breaks stuff.   
      
    > With regularly updated OpenSSL - never.   
    >  BH> Good look trying to get into irc.freenode.net they got taken over and   
   deleted a bunch of accounts mine was one of the firsts, almost 18 year   
    >  BH> old account and was deleted   
      
   Apparently you haven't been on irc.freenode.net  they have new owners and   
   deleted every single user account and all channels forcing you to reregister   
   and use SSL..   
   My account went back to when IRC started and probably log onto IRC more then   
   you.  It was everybody.  And they went to a SSL Key exchange system.   
   It's not that default linux server you log into.   
   Again, killing old outdated systems.. starting with non current SSL.   
      
    > Deleting inactive users is normal.   
      
    > You had a plenty of time to update your system.   
    > No: that was you who killed your pretty system.   
    Yeah, I proably should have been updating to the most current stuff to   
   protect me, from me.   
    Face it most updates are there to protect flaws.   
    I bet my Older Server does more stuff correctly and easily then your most   
   modern updated one.   
    Updates tend to change how things are configured that your used to doing.   
      
      
   Yup - Again making IRC compatiable with Mobile users and getting rid of the   
   need to /msg NickServ identify was the main goal.   
   The Old school way of /msg NickServ on freenode is gone.  Again.. Any Older   
   Vintage Computer is done logging into IRC.  Until you install   
   the latest.   
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