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   Good ${greeting_time}, Anna!   
      
   08 Feb 2021 15:37:00, you wrote to me:   
      
    MS>>>> 1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get   
    MS>>>> errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I   
    MS>>>> have to try to "make" it fails.  Any suggestions..?   
    ACN>>> When make fails, you should be able to see an error message that   
    ACN>>> could tell you "why" it failed. If some .h files are missing, you   
    ACN>>> could search for the corresponding -dev package and install it.   
    AV>> In a properly designed systems you'd never need to install the   
    AV>> development packages: they should be installed only inside of a   
    AV>> clean build environment.   
    ACN> ?!?!?!?   
    ACN> The original poster wants to install software via "make" and I   
    ACN> guess this means to compile the program which indeed needs   
    ACN> development programs.   
      
   Any and all software should (as in FTA-1006 and RFC-2119) be built as the   
   packages and installed with a package management system. Otherwise your   
   favourite system would turn into a Slackware regardless of your will.   
      
    ACN> What you do on your systems was not the question - or do you have a   
    ACN> better solution with your "properly designed system"?   
      
   Yes, two. First is "hasher", which prepares a clean build environment and runs   
   it in a container using unshare() system call. Second is "gear", which solves   
   the compile-time dependencies, installs them into a build container, creates   
   source package from a git commit-id and feeds all this stuff to the hasher.   
      
   So the rebuild becomes as simple as   
      
   alias gh 'time gear-hsh --commit --verbose'   
      
   running as an unprivileged user, and the result is the RPM packages.   
      
    ACN>>> Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compiling   
    ACN>>> packages.   
    AV>> I'd never use the system where such package does really exist...   
    ACN> Then stay away from everything that is derived from Debian GNU/Linux.   
      
   I do (and recommend) that since CVE-2008-0166 :-)   
      
      
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