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   -=> Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-   
      
    GK> Hello Dennis!   
      
    GK> 08 Dec 20 21:54, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:   
      
      
    DK> Systemd isn't that bad.  It's much better than Lennart's pulseaudio,   
    DK> now THAT sucks.   
      
    GK> Tell me about it. OSS always worked fine for me. So did JACK.   
      
    DK> I moved to Systed with Fedora in 2013 or so, and really, the only   
    DK> four notable   
    DK> differences was the system booted a little faster, shut down a lot   
    DK> faster,  the   
    DK> commands to start a service were slightly different, and the message   
    DK> log was   
    DK> accessed through journalctl.   
      
    GK> As I said, this wholly depends on your use case. If you're running a   
    GK> notebook, I totally see the benefit. However, I have mainly servers and   
    GK> a few workstations to maintain. These are not booted for days, weeks or   
    GK> even months, and they hardly ever change their network settings. If   
    GK> they boot, hardware detection alone might take minutes, so I absolutely   
    GK> don't care about saving a few seconds afterwards during boot. On the   
    GK> other hand, from day one I had a hard time making systemd *not* causing   
    GK> race conditions and actually wait for things that are required during   
    GK> boot on these machines, especially network connections and remote   
    GK> mounts.   
      
    DK> but systemd was not that a big deal.   
      
    GK> Your mileage may vary.   
      
   Indeed it may.  I've seen good criticism of it, and I don't really care either   
   way.  I guess for my use case, as a Linux "power user", it wasn't the worry it   
   was.   
      
      
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