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   Hallo Gerrit!   
      
    GK> The stuff is OSS, but I don't compile it myself, I just let the   
    GK> vendor or the community do the legwork.   
      
   Does that include "Msged/BSD 6.1.2" and/or "hpt/fbsd 1.9.0-cur 08-05-14"?   
      
    GK> many people do not recognise that embedded platforms and such   
    GK> were the original target market for java when it was invented by   
    GK> Sun's engineers   
      
   I've run across many such things over the years.  Nothing much lately but then   
   again I don't usually follow embedded development for the mostpart.   
      
    GK> Selecting a language heavily depends on the intended use and   
    GK> context.   
      
   Development would be of primary interest as far as I am concerned and thus an   
   embedded enviroment is more of a curiousity than an actual working enviroment   
   up to and including the raspi3b+ I happen to have built a LFS-ish for.  That   
   was fun for awhile.  Absolutely zero java on there as everything was (is?)   
   gcc/glibc based.  I haven't worked on it for about a year now as I have little   
   to nothing for it to actually do for the network I have working for the   
   "cause" whatever the "cause" might happen to be.  Getting a working pure   
   64-bit aarch64-linux-gnu enviroment was my prime motivation at the time and I   
   believe I had done a good job.   
      
    GK> in some places gcc really sucked   
      
   Example(s)?  The only one I can claim any experience with would be any 16-bit   
   DOS enviroment running on 32-bit processors.  :::shudder:::  What a bad joke   
   that whole concept turned out to be.   
      
    GK> but it makes maintenance for "appliances" that are supposed to   
    GK> "just work" based on this software a real hassle at times   
      
   Agreed.  In my case the lack of appliances that "just work" are the usual   
   source of grief which means having working gcc/glibc enviroment to take care   
   of things that actually matter is the prime motivation for all the systems   
   under my care.  Mind you I have yet to send anything out to explore the   
   universe on it's own so perhaps I am looking at "appliances" the wrong way?   
      
   Het leven is goed,   
   Maurice   
      
   ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.   
   --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)   
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