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   Hallo Kai!   
      
    KR> That's the great freedom of choice of open source software.   
      
   Agreed.  However there is/was software that is part and parcel of every linux   
   distribution.  For me gcc is definetly one of those and has been since I first   
   used it on Solaris based machines (Sparc stations) in the real world way back   
   when no matter what their purpose was.  Also C and Unix did grow up together   
   way back in the late 60's when one wasn't possible without the other.  I still   
   believe that is true and there would be zero linux (bsd's too) distributions   
   without a C compiler and gcc was there at the beginning.   
      
    KR> I was talking about servers in general. The job of a server is to   
    KR> provide service for specific task(s). A file server have to serve   
    KR> files, a web server have to deliver webpages.   
      
   I have yet to see one of those in the real world, nevermind here where I am.    
   Every Unixie machine I have ever encountered ALWAYS had a working gcc   
   enviroment since the late 1980's and continues to be true although I only have   
   access to the machines I currently am running.  There are differences between   
   the linux I originally ran back in the 1990's and today but gcc is still at   
   the heart of it all.   
      
    KR> I see and understand why "your" systems need a dev environment   
    KR> but that is not required for "any" existing system.   
      
   Understood.  I could easily replicate a non dev enviroment but I'd use gcc to   
   create it rather than rely on someone else's idea for such a crippled   
   machine(s).  Having said that I am not sure what I'd need from such a system.    
   I am guessing it would sit in the corner collecting dust.   
      
   Bottomline is that LFS is an excellent document of how things fit together and   
   gcc is an integral part of that which makes it an excellent learning tool.   
      
   Het leven is goed,   
   Maurice   
      
   ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.   
   --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)   
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