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   Hello Maurice!   
      
   21 Oct 19, Maurice Kinal wrote to Kai Richter:   
      
    MK> Hallo Kai!   
      
    KR>> a basic shell system of 300-400MB where you can install your   
    KR>> server on top.   
      
    MK> I seriously doubt the above contains gcc and friends which as of   
    MK> gcc-9.2.0 takes up 455MB for the basic toolchain   
      
   You are correct. That's why i said basic shell system, not basic build system.   
      
   Btw, you removed the context of my basic shell, before i wrote something like   
   i rely on the maintainers. They build on their machines, with their time and   
   energy and i install the result as binary.   
      
    MK> which in my humble guesstimation is the bare bones minimum to call a   
    MK> linux-gnu shell enviroment.  Without gcc and friends the above is   
    MK> only a toy and doesn't even rate calling a evaluation system given   
    MK> the lack of development tools.  Anything that cannot take care of   
    MK> itself isn't worth booting in the first place.   
      
   I do not see that any system needs a dev and build environment. It is a waste   
   of time and energy if every system is building from scratch and compiling it's   
   software on its own. I doubt that you - if you're responsible for 100   
   computers - would run a build environment on every machine and compile any   
   software 100 times.   
      
    KR>> From scratch is a far longer journey but you'll learn many   
    KR>> insides of the system.   
      
    MK> Which is what was asked for in the initial enquiry.   
      
   I do apologize if i did not understand that at first. I'm still not sure if it   
   was a question for configuration or building.   
      
    MK> I'd argue that it is a worthwhile document just for reading but if   
    MK> and when followed will provide one with the best possible system with   
    MK> whatever additional sources one adds to it.   
      
   Good point. Maybe i see a question for a manual as a questions from the user   
   point of view. I think a developer would ask for the source code because any   
   detail is within. Finally he now have all choices.   
      
   Regards   
      
   Kai   
      
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