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   Message 6,185 of 8,232   
   Maurice Kinal to Richard Falken   
   A Terminal and a Manual   
   21 Oct 19 22:05:26   
   
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   Hallo Richard!   
      
    RF> so you do think that an operating system install that lacks a GCC   
    RF> compiler is, for lack of a better expression, not worth it?   
      
   Yes.  Also I might turn it up a notch and say that an operating system install   
   that lacks a GCC isn't really an operating system, and hence not worth it even   
   if it is free and required zero effort on the part of the user if indeed it   
   will attract a user of said system in the first place.   
      
    RF> But, hmmmm, if you are setting up for learning, and are running a   
    RF> single instance, then I think you actually need a good set of   
    RF> development tools in it.   
      
   I believe EVERY single instance of ALL unix enviroments are required to have a   
   working c enviroment in order to truly be called a unix enviroment.  Not only   
   does gcc and friends count as a working c enviroment it exceeds that general   
   idea and therefore the LFS ideology perhaps is the best document there   
   currently is as far as linux-gnu developemt is concerned.  Anything less would   
   be a shiny example of what is wrong with a more Microsoft-ish enviroment which   
   is what I see distributions like Debian.   
      
   Het leven is goed,   
   Maurice   
      
   ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.   
   --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)   
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