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   -=> On 07-28-19 13:24, Eric Renfro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-   
      
    ER> I don't even recommend anymore, most anti-virus solutions. The only one   
    ER> I recommend anymore is Microsoft's, what was named "Security   
    ER> Essentials" before, not sure what Windows 10 renamed it to, but I   
    ER> recall they did rename it. Windows Defender or something?   
      
   That's all I'm using, but even though Microsoft's AV solution is better   
   integrated and works with, not in spite of Windows, it still causes some issues   
   at times. Yes, Windows Defender is a name that cropped up at some stage.   
      
    ER> A lot, pretty much darn well near all, started tapping directly raw   
    ER> into the network layer, and interpret straight from that. Well, guess   
    ER> what most viruses, malware, etc focus on a lot of? Interpretters. When   
    ER> you ADD an interpreter to the raw sockets, you expose more direct and   
    ER> confrontational means to get right down to the heart of the security   
    ER> tools. This is unwise, especially since there's been many   
    ER> vulnerabilities in that front too. :)   
      
   Yes, antivirus products have been responsible for a whole host of   
   vulnerabilities too.  At least Microsoft's products are design to work   
   together, and haven't had to be hacked into the OS.   
      
    ER> Yeah. I do definitely miss some of the greatness KDE had. I don't like   
    ER> that Akonadi has become this monstrous beast of a thing that it   
    ER> probably should never have become because it's become a nightmare to   
    ER> maintain as it is. I mean, I even setup my mail servers to run Kolab,   
    ER> but now they've moved Kolab to being this commercial thing and they're   
    ER> stopping to maintain the GPL release packages they once did. So I'm   
    ER> going to eventually be tearing my mail server down and rebuilding it   
    ER> completely without any dependancies for the current design concepts.   
    ER> Build my own alternatives to some of the feastures Kolab provides, and   
    ER> have something I can just use and use well. It's a work in progress on   
    ER> that, but it'll definitely happen.   
      
   Well, good luck, which way you end up going. :)  I only run mail servers when I   
   _really_ have to.  Handling spam has turned running mail servers into a real   
   chore. :(  And there's still a lot of bad setups out there.  I've got one   
   account suffering a heap of backscatter from servers that bounce mail, instead   
   of issue a SMTP error during the session with the spammer's system (which   
   doesn't result in backscatter).  I think the domain doesn't have any SPF   
   records either, which doesn't help.  Backscatter is something I found a   
   solution for 15 or more years ago.  There's no excuse for a mail server to   
   generate backscatter today.   
      
      
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