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     Re: Re: Linux Daily?   
     By: Tony Langdon to Eric Renfro on Sun Jul 28 2019 12:42 pm   
      
    ER>> Hmmmm... I mean, the imposed requirements of even having to have   
    ER>> "antivirus" software specifically is pretty much degrading even the   
    ER>> chances of having "better" in the vocabulary at all when it comes to   
    ER>> Windows. The fact you have to have something like that constantly   
    ER>> running just to prevent both infection and spreading alone...   
      
    TL> I have been pretty successful in the past at running Windows without   
    TL> antivirus.    
    TL> One just have to be careful. :)   
      
   I don't even recommend anymore, most anti-virus solutions. The only one I   
   recommend anymore is Microsoft's, what was named "Security Essentials" before,   
   not sure what Windows 10 renamed it to, but I recall they did rename it.   
   Windows Defender or something?    
      
   A lot, pretty much darn well near all, started tapping directly raw into the   
   network layer, and interpret straight from that. Well, guess what most viruses,   
   malware, etc focus on a lot of? Interpretters. When you ADD an interpreter to   
   the raw sockets, you expose more direct and confrontational means to get right   
   down to the heart of the security tools. This is unwise, especially since   
   there's been many vulnerabilities in that front too. :)   
      
    TL>>  ER> For me, it started being a real issue around Cinnamon 4.x,   
    TL>> when it really started to get unstable. I've gone to using my old   
    TL>> trusty XFCE which has never let me down. Unlike KDE, Gnome,   
    TL>> Cinnamon, and pretty    
    TL>> much everything else to date actually, in terms of DE's.   
      
    TL> Fair enough.   
      
   Yeah. I do definitely miss some of the greatness KDE had. I don't like that   
   Akonadi has become this monstrous beast of a thing that it probably should   
   never have become because it's become a nightmare to maintain as it is. I mean,   
   I even setup my mail servers to run Kolab, but now they've moved Kolab to being   
   this commercial thing and they're stopping to maintain the GPL release packages   
   they once did. So I'm going to eventually be tearing my mail server down and   
   rebuilding it completely without any dependancies for the current design   
   concepts. Build my own alternatives to some of the feastures Kolab provides,   
   and have something I can just use and use well. It's a work in progress on   
   that, but it'll definitely happen.   
      
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