Hi Maurice!   
      
   12 Jun 2018 13:22, from Maurice Kinal -> Richard Menedetter:   
      
    RM>> But I also do not have the need to send characters of languages   
    RM>> that I do not speak.   
    MK> I can relate especially considering that I haven't ever mastered the   
    MK> language I speak, nevermind ones that I don't.   
      
   I agree ... same here ;)   
      
    MK> Having said that I can see where utf-8 supported echoareas might   
    MK> improve the current situation in Fidonet.   
    MK> It is worth a shot ... maybe.   
      
   It is a a balancing between the added value vs. how many people will not be   
   able to use it.   
      
   For english discussion for me personally the value is very small, and the fact   
   that most people will not be able to participate is bad.   
   So for me personally it is not a viable usecase currently.   
      
   If you take a look at how many people use fido packages which do not even   
   support the generation of a REPLY kludge, I do not think that we will see   
   widespread UTF-8 adoption in our lifetime.   
      
    RM>> Some people tried to add UTF-8 support, but they gave up.   
    MK> I don't blame them.   
      
   Me neither.   
      
    MK> Both golded and msged will screw them up with or without a CHRS   
    MK> kludge.   
      
   What exactly do you mean?   
   I am using it daily and it works just fine within the scope of the   
   implementation.   
   If I receive an 8 bit message in CP850, it will be correctly translated to ISO   
   8859-1 and displayed correctly.   
   (I am dumbin down my terminal to ISO 8859-1 in the golded start script.)   
      
   That those software packages have limited scopes is a different story.   
   IF they would support UTF-8, the implementation could correctly translate from   
   eg CP850 to UTF-8.   
      
   CU, Ricsi   
      
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