Hello Tony!   
      
   18 Jan 18 15:27, you wrote to me:   
      
    TL> I think in my case, it was a case of Bink being the first one I got   
    TL> going. From memory, it was free (as in beer),   
      
   I only use free in terms of no cost. I never went or will go along with the   
   silliness that a certain Linux group misueses words.   
      
      
    TL>  wasn't FD shareware?   
      
   FD was/is shareware. I don't remember the what if any limit there was.. If   
   anythin I recall a commercial BBS needed a license, I had no BBS, and no   
   commercial operations. My company only provide a home, power, and phone lines.   
   :)  FD worked for me   
      
    TL> Secondly, I started playing with Bink and it made sense to me, so I   
    TL> kept using it.  And today, it's all come back to me with binkd. :)   
      
   I only ever used FD, and Terminate for a couple points that I needed to keep   
   simple.   
      
   Bink just makes no sense then or now.   
      
    TL> I don't remember that issue.   
      
   I do alot with BBS's that were HST/HST+ and they wouldn't connect for Terminate   
    or Telemate or anything, or FIDO. I had a couple I had to route to their NC or   
    HUB to send stuff to.   
      
      
      
    TL> When I had the BBS, I only got up to 2400, but when a friend took over   
    TL> hosting it, he did eventually upgrade to Courier V.Everything modems.   
    TL> Had no issues.   
      
   These issues seemed to show up starting when the 14.4 and 28.8 stuff. Although   
   I had a 33.6 external no name clone that did seem to work better than Zoom and   
   other name band stuff. The biggest issue was making sure to get hardware   
   modems, which is one reason I stuck to externals mostly, and I like blinken   
   lights! :) ;) Made for great ambiance lighting! :) ;)   
      
      
    TL> Hydra rins a bell.  In any case, it was a cool feature of Bink,   
    TL> especially at slower modem speeds or for large volumes of mail.   
      
   There were a couple of improvements via external protocols Hydra and something   
   else is in the back of my mind, can't think of it though.   
      
    TL> I programmed in BASIC, Pascal (generally Turbo Pascal), and various   
    TL> assembly languages, including 8080, 8086, 6809, and even PIC16F84.   
      
   In a time long long ago. I started with BASIC on various things from VAX/VMS to   
    PDP's to Atari 4|800's to some CP/M based things. The PDP needed assembler to   
   do some things, and that progressed into similar on various other chips. My EE   
   project needed 68HC11 software, I had this really whizo emulator that I could   
   do all kinds of things to create my software way quicker than those that had to   
    play with the actual testbed boards. I did PASCAL for my CIS class language as   
    I had TP and, again could do it all at home versus fighting for terminal time   
   or calling into the mainframe. I just had to provide full source and with the   
   binary.   
      
      
    TL> I know it was possible to use an SMTP server under OS/2 (there was one   
    TL> that worked with GIGO), and I even managed to get GIGO to work with an   
    TL> old version of MDaemon under 32 bit Windows (I was running NT 4 at the   
    TL> time).  I can't recall if I was still gating Usenet at the time, or if   
    TL> it was just email (including gated maiing lists).  I know I had to   
    TL> convert from UUCP to SPTP (and NNTP?) when my ISP stopped offering   
    TL> UUCP.   
      
   I am not sure what GIGO did on OS/2, I never touched it. I only begrundignly   
   used stuff passed DOS, as I was forced to. I needed an ICLID program and to get   
    the one I needed, it needed win 3.1. Then I needed network stuff so I got   
   Wfwg. I ran that well into 90's. I probably was one of the last still running   
   10Base2. I even had this cute little hub that would take 10B2 and split to   
   10Base5 or Cat5 like today. I ran that well into 2000-2001. Ain't broke, don't   
   break it! I even packed it all up 3 times and reset it up! I was limited to   
   ISDN well into 2000's by location.   
      
   Anyway. GIGO would definitely need to use SMTP and NNTP user accounts or full   
   NNTP accounts, but a standard NNTP account from say NewDemon or something would   
    be the prefered route. There might be a few uucp places out there, but I've   
   not had an actual modem on things in years. The AIO on the network does it all   
   now.   
      
   Rick   
      
      
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